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If factory farms, slaughterhouses, and dairy farms had glass walls, everyone would be vegan. As an individual who has not touched meat or poultry in over 20 years, I was thrilled by these inspiring stories of cow, sheep and dairy farmers who experienced an epiphany. They realized that they could no longer deliver the animals they had raised to slaughterhouses for a horrifying death or to factory farms a life of pain, illness, cruelty and unnatural surroundings..
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TheoryNumber3 8 Mar 4
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You are welcome to join the Ethical Vegan group on this site 🙂
Here's the link [agnostic.com]

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Thank you for telling the truth about the predatory human food chain UNethical and incompetent

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Thank you for sharing.

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i don't eat a lot of meat & have thought about quitting but always wondered how i'd get enough protein. i know there's protein in beans & other vegs but there also seems to be a lot of gas.
i haven't eaten a pork chop or pork roast for 30+ yrs. mainly b/c one day i remembered feeding the pigs on my grandfathers farm. but i still eat a little bacon & ham, mainly b/c my wife likes it.

That's a common question many people ask. There are varying levels of vegetarianism. Some continue to eat eggs and dairy, some eat fish. I personally don't eat poultry or beef. Maybe this will help: [healthline.com]

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Technology always has side effects, whether positive or negative.

One positive side effect of the lab-grown meat industry is that, when it's cheaper than buying it the traditional way, we won't have to see this kinda bullshit anymore.

I came here to get away from preaching. Jesus H.

For the record, I've been in a slaughterhouse. I know how sausage is made.

We're omnivores. Cooked meat is responsible for us being the only sapient creatures we're aware of.

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Bismarck, one time chancellor of Prussia once stated, "Politics is like sausages; it's better not to know how it's made." Years ago, I had an engineer from Poland as an employee. He was a strict and militant vegan. He told me that as an undergrad, his summer job was working in a sausage factory. He had to come in early every Monday to clean and start up all the machinery - slicers, grinders, power saws... As soon as he flipped the main switch, the place filled with unearthly screeching as all the rats that had assembled during the weekend to scavenge were sucked into, ground up, sliced, dismembered by all this powerful equipment. When the noise died down, he would clean the equipment, more or less, with a garden hose. Once most of the rat débris was gone, the first shift would start dumping cow and pig corpses into the hoppers and out would come glistening sausages. After the first day, he never ate meat again.

@mzbehavin Probably not ones who normally live in industrial sewers, but tae each 'is aune. Bon appétit.

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My ex-father-in-law was grocery store butcher who like to describe his part-time job on the kill floor of a slaughterhouse in great detail. He thought it was the perfect dinner-time conversation. I still can't get the image of the bolt gun out of my head. I told him that he might want to reconsider his dinnertime conversations, if he wanted to keep his clientele. I come from generations of farmers, but I totally avoid beef and pork as a direct result of his vivid descriptions. I can't look at slaughterhouse images and would like to see factory farming replaced with a Humane alternative. I have been in a factory farming facilitiy for chickens that I found a appalling.

LB67 Level 7 Mar 4, 2019

@mzbehavin I do what little I can...if I am am buying eggs...I buy free-range. My parents almost bought a factory chicken farm when I was a kid. I was traumatized just being in the barns. I have never forgotten that place.

@LB67 Many eggs are deceptively marked "free range" and "cage free". Egg suppliers have tricky ways around the regulations. I was told to look for the label "Certified Humane" for an assurance that the chickens are, in actuality treated, humanely.

@TheoryNumber3 thanks for the tip. I had not heard of the deception, but I am not surprised.

@LB67 This is the article where I found out about the "certified humane" labeling. It's informative.

[huffpost.com]

@TheoryNumber3 that is useful. Thanks for the share. We used to have a farmers market, in my old town, where the people reselling from grocery store suppliers played every trick possible to make it almost impossible to differentiate the real local farmers. I am so tired of the trickery and deception. The local farmers finally started their own offshoot market.

@LB67 it's a little puzzling. This is food we're talking about. The least we can expect is that it doesn't poison us with glyphosare or some other lethal chemical

@TheoryNumber3 the resellers actually were fighting to keep the local farmers from being able to put up signs showing that it was local produce. It made me very angry, that these games that were being played at the expense of the local producers and people just trying to support their community.

@LB67 join a coop or true CSA local group...drive out and buy 3 dozen fresh washed eggs from the chickens tame underfoot...buy goat cheese where you can hear happy bleating goats....if every meat eater was required to buy a hunting license and work one day a year on the kill floor INDUSTRIAL SPECIEScide would abate greatly

@GreenAtheist I catch and release spiders. If I was required to kill my own meat, I would immediately become a full vegetarian. I am close to being one now.

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I believe in rearing animals which are to be used for food in the best possible environment, in the fresh air, not factory farmed. Free ranging in the case of poultry, and cattle, grass fed in fields and meadows. When the time comes for them to be killed for us to use for food, they should be dispatched as humanely as possible. I do not believe that we humans are vegetarian or vegan beings, but are in fact omnivores, this is evidenced by the types of teeth we have, canine, incisors and molars. I dislike the current movement to vilify those of us who eat meat in our diets, and wonder why we can’t just all decide for ourselves whether to eat meat or not. It seems that Veganism is becoming almost like the religious movements who try to proselytise and convert us. I say the same thing I would say to an evangelist, no thanks, I’m happy the way I am.

I'm not vilifying anyone except those who have a heartless attitude towards animals. There is always room for compassion. My choice to become a vegetarian was my own. My post was about factory farms and some farmers who made their choice not to participate any longer. I don't tell anyone what to eat. But I object to people who think it's ok for animals to be raised in a completely inhumane environment, then sent off to be mercilessly slaughtered by workers whose only criterion from their bosses is "Faster! Faster". Many of these animals aren't even dead before they start ripping off their wings, skinning them alive and dismembering them. Read some of the eyewitness reports on the PETA website. Watch some of the videos. They're heartbreaking.

As far as humans not being vegetarians because they have teeth, Gorillas are vegetarians. Elephants are vegetarians. So are deer, cattle, rhinoceros, bison and sheep. They all have teeth.

@TheoryNumber3 I meant the type of teeth we have is a good indicator of what we should eat, we have the teeth of omnivores, biting, tearing and grinding teeth. Canine, incisors and molars.

@Marionville Yes a lot of people think that... however..... [freefromharm.org]

@TheoryNumber3 Good try....! Our earliest ancestors were hunter gatherers, they hunted and killed animals for their meat, and used the skins to keep warm. They also gathered seeds, berries and herbs...thus we are omnivores.

@Marionville Yeah well today we have central heat, polyester and grocery stores. Things change.

@Gooniesnvrdie i would thank you to keep your dumbass remarks to yourself. The canines in humans are also called our eye teeth, and we certainly do have them. I have never read a book about teeth written by the beef industry, either 70 years old or more recent. Are you always so rude and ignorant, or do you reserve it for women?

@Gooniesnvrdie I have already had that propaganda offered by TheoryNumber3, I don’t need to read it twice. If I like to eat meat, and believe our teeth are for using to that end, it’s my prerogative...stop being a food Nazi!

@TheoryNumber3 ridiculous analogies!

@Gooniesnvrdie Go and eat some tofu, or whatever passes for protein in your diet...your brain isn’t functioning properly. You are mistaking intelligence for ignorance!

Propaganda? Jeez Louise... all I wanted to do was share a story I found inspirational and now I'm a propagandist.

@Gooniesnvrdie And I’m calling out your ignorance and inability to debate without using abusive terminology....! Yes, I am old, I’m more than double your age, that does not give you the right to think you are smarter or more knowlegable than me. I don’t need any reason to justify eating meat, to you or anyone else, and I don’t remember giving any reasons why I do, feeble or otherwise in your eyes. I enjoy eating meat, that is why I eat it. I also just happen to believe we are equipped to eat meat by having the teeth we have, but having the right teeth isn’t why I eat it. If I didn’t enjoy the taste i wouldn’t eat it.

@Gooniesnvrdie I note you wisely edited out your remark “ old as fuck”. However I already saw and noted your rudeness!

@Gooniesnvrdie What a surprise....! Lightweight.

@Gooniesnvrdie ? And you’re just pathetic!

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