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Saw a TV show about a detective , trying to find the culprits , who had gang raped a young woman , then used a metal pipe to do it again , then one of the 6 men reached his hand inside of her and puled her intestines out though both her vagina and her rectum . A friend in FB just shared two stories about men, one cut off five of his wifes fingers the other destroyed both his wife's eyes . because in both cases , the wives were continuing their education . What makes men treat women so horribly ? What makes them think it's the right thing to do ? Why are they so against having educated wives ?

Cast1es 9 May 11
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The first case was not a TV show. It happened in Dehli in Dec 2012. She died of her injuries. This is a kink to the reporting while she still lived. [m.huffpost.com]

This is a link to an article after she died [nytimes.com]

This news story was pretty widely broadcast at the time. I'm surprised, based on its heinous nature that it was forgotten. Then again, it's easy for horrible things to be remembered as fiction when you are bombarded with so much do often.

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This is the kind of crap you get on Facebook.... Which is just one reason I stay away from there.

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The first case is a TV show, and presumably fiction....if not then the perpetrators are undoubtedly misogynists and psychopaths. The second two cases, again I am making an assumption that they happened overseas in some Muslin country where men believe women should not be educated, but they are only the most extreme examples of misogynistic practices which are perpetrated against women by husbands and partners all over the world. It’s a form of control and it has always been the case, even in highly educated and well off families, and seems to hinge on whether the husband’s personality can handle having an educated, intelligent woman, or if his insecurities prevent him from doing so. Men do this kind of thing because they feel their masculinity and authority is being threatened, this idea being reinforced by their religious beliefs. The more religious they are, the more likely they are to feel the need to completely dominate their women, and they can always quote scripture to justify their behaviour. There is also a group of men who, for whatever reason, perhaps abandonment by their mothers in childhood, have a deep seated hatred of women and take it out on any partner unfortunate enough to find themselves in a relationship with them. I know men can suffer violence at the hands of women too....but there is absolutely no equivalence in either the number of incidents or the severity.

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You might do better to ask why there is so much of this behaviour in some places on earth and less in others.

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You shall never have a decent answer to this question, whilst you ask about "men".Half the world's population are men,and so such a generalisation may not be made.

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In some cases it's a mental disorder. Odds are good you can find similar cases with the gender roles reversed. Because nut cases (Lorena Bobbit).

In some cases it's cultural, particularly backward, ironage cultures often supported by religions crafted in the same era. In these cases, women can be observed supporting these behaviors, like the female doctor recently charged, then acquited, for reasons I don't understand, of genital mutilation for "circumsizing" women.

In cultures where women and men are raised as equals, this is an extreme rarity. I hope it becomes more so.

Also please keep in mind atrocity and horror sell. So certain magazines will find, manufacture and sometimes inflate such stories.

Lorena Bobbitt suffered four years of emotional, physical and sexual abuse (including rape) at John's hands, and was forced by him to have abortion she didn't want to undergo. I'd say her actions were actually quite reasonable rather than those of a "nut case".

@Jnei I doubt very much that mutilating her husband was her only option at that time. Also there is good reason to believe she could have left at any time prior. So as to why she stayed so long in an abusive environment and chose amputation as a remedy ... I'm back to "nut case".

And I think a lot of cases of violence by men could be excused with statements starting with "But she ...... " .... also nut cases.

@Normanbites Her husband also told her that he would always be able to find her, and have sex with her at any time he wanted. Talk to women who have been in abusive relationships and one thing you'll hear again and again is they don't leave because they're so utterly terrified of what their partner will do to them if they do. Sometimes, they can summon up the bravery and, with help, are able to escape; sometimes they stay and end up being beaten to death. Sometimes, they snap - which is quite reasonable, considering, as the court that declared Lorena would not face criminal charges would seem to agree.

@Jnei That's like saying it is reasonable that men "snap" when they believe their wife misbehaves, is abusive or is otherwise "unreasonable". Courts in some countries have also decided that women deserved to be stoned for being "unreasonable". Just because some "Court" makes a decision that does not make it "reasonable". After all, the holocaust was perfectly "legal".

Perhaps you should try reversing the gender roles in your claims to see if you still think it is reasonable behavior.

Just to be blatantly obvious about it: What "sin" would a woman have to commit for it to be "reasonable" for her husband to snip off her clitoris while she slept??

I'm sticking by my original assessment; Nut cases all!!

@Normanbites If a man was subject to that level of abuse for four years and one day snapped, then yes - I would consider him not to bear criminal responsibility. If a man or woman were to snap and deliberately physically injure their partner for "misbehaving", as you put it, that would be a very different matter.

@Jnei In the US some states allow a charged criminal to plead "Guilty but insane". In these cases, a sentence is imposed, the criminal is sent for treatment. Then when treatment is finished, the remainder of any sentence is served in prison. I think that outcome would be appropriate for both genders of these nut cases.

@Normanbites I don't see that as being appropriate in any cases at all. People who are suffering from mental illnesses sufficiently acute to cause them to carry out serious crimes should not be considered responsible for their actions - all that achieves is punishing people for being ill.

@Jnei I see it as perfectly appropriate. Some, even many, commit crimes while being off their meds. Who is responsible for being off their meds? For that matter, who is responsible for seeking treatment before any serious harm is done? Yes, they are responsible for being ill without treatment. That outcome is perfectly appropriate!! IMHO.

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In the first case, it's a TV show, and in the FB case, it sounds like stories from sociopaths with fundamentalist religious upbringing...

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Sociopath plain and simple waste of skin

bobwjr Level 10 May 11, 2019
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These men are sociopaths.

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I have no idea. There must be something wrong with them.

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I am not sure why someone would do something that inhumane, or why someone would want to watch something that fucked up . . . . to me, that is not entertainment, it seems to be more like sadism.

THHA Level 7 May 11, 2019
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