" Still, social polarization in its broadest sense is the last bastion of Platonic fiat-theory. Systems of belief are rooted for as if they are sport clubs; their merits incurred out of sentiment and not earned from results. People insist that things are "believed" out of a sense of reverence or obedience, or "disbelieved" out of opposite sentiments, without being critical about whether of not there's actually some real value behind the promise. Most religions today are cloaked forms of nationalism: from Russian Orthodoxy to Polish Catholicism to American Evangelism, which in turn encapsulate competing markets (MATTHEW 7:15). Most scientific disciplines (including physics and cosmology) are oblivious about other fields, have no idea about any bigger picture, and are almost wholly driven and funded by commerce. Fiat-theory can be as detrimental to a society as fiat-currency can be: with unchecked speculation filling the concrete upon which our world stands with bubbles, and in time allowing the collapse of the whole of it. But its dangers have been clearly understood since antiquity. In the ninth century BC a famous duel occurred..." [abarim-publications.com]
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.Speaking only for myself, I do not "disbelieve out of opposite sentements" to reverence or obedience. I disbelieve because there is not just insufficient evidence for religious faith, but none what-so-fucking-ever. Nor am I unable to recognize that there is some incidental value to the things I don't afford belief to. Religion is capable, at times, of delivering value (for example, community and refuge). But it comes with a price: my intellectual integrity.
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Mar 9, 2018
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this guy totally agrees, trust me:
"All this has certainly nothing to do with church buildings or marble statues or religions of any sort (REVELATION 21:22). In fact, the heroes of both the Old and the New Testaments have much more in common with post-Renaissance scientists (1 Kings 4:33-34) than with post-Renaissance clergy, and unanimously abhorred religious regalia and ritualistic vanity. The Roman imperial machine required its subjects to pay homage to the deified state and its Caesar, and true truth-seekers didn't feel like doing so...From our secondary verb ??????? (theaomai) comes the noun ?????? (theoros), literally meaning an observer or observed one. This extra-Biblical word became used to denote an envoy sent to divine kings or to oracles or to show up at functions in stead of someone represented. From this noun in turn comes the familiar verb ?????? (theoreo), meaning to gaze intently in order to get all the details (MARK 15:47, LUKE 14:29), and from that verb comes the even more familiar noun ?????? (theoria), meaning a viewing or sight (LUKE 23:48). Quite fittingly, this noun is the origin of our English word "theory" or — dare we say it? — "goddery". Theory is literally god-business..." [abarim-publications.com]
"Paul writes that all writing is god-breathed. With this he obviously means all writing — such as the extra-Biblical legend of Jannes and Jambres, which he mentions a few verses prior — and not only so-called sacred writings, let alone the Bible the way we have it simply because much of it hadn't been produced at the time of Paul's writing. In other words: if you can convey the gospel by referring to Shakespeare, Star Trek or Masha and the Bear, by all means don't hold back." ibid, wherein "gospel" is defined quite differently also. "GOOD NEWS! If you do ezackly as i say you won't burn forever!" lol, nah
This is kind of the preface to the op: " but we've always known this was coming, so we're going to have to stop sniveling and grow up. Our training wheels were invented specifically so that we could learn how to ride our bikes without them. A house on sand In the world of wisdom, the accrued value is knowledge. And the more comes into a society, the more goes around, the more gets produced, and the higher the standard of living rises. Plato left us some pretty clever ideas but he was also the father of a kind of fiat-theory: speculative theory that went all over the place and which was no longer obviously connected to any useful skill or knowledge about the observable world. Plato's ex nihilo theories gobbled up vast amounts of intellectual energy and sorely inflated the economy of learning for 1,500 years (Platonic speculation and Roman totalitarianism largely explains the darkness of the Middle Ages). The Platonic episode began to come to an end when during the European Renaissance, Plato's fiat-philosophy was shelved and Aristotle's scientific method became the norm. It took another few hundred years for humanity to regain..."
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