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A friend of mine posted this on facebook. I agree with it.

Written by: Leonidas Christian Mixon

We have a gun problem and a bullshit problem in the United States. Let me start by saying I am a gun owner. I have been since I was 6. I’ve had jobs that required me to carry a weapon. I’ve been shot at more than once. I’ve disarmed people who were trying to kill me. This isn’t coming from someone who doesn’t understand guns. It’s precisely because I do understand them that I’m going to call out the bullshit that stops us from having the reforms to gun laws that we needed years ago. If you want to debate any of the points below, I have no problem. These are simple facts.

  1. I need an assault rifle for home defense. No, you don’t. A short barreled shotgun is the best tool for home defense. And that only counts if you’re insanely proficient with it and you get incredibly lucky. The likelihood you will get the chance to use it is next to zero. If you do, you’re very likely to kill a member of your family accidentally. In a REAL altercation, you don’t get to choose your field of fire. It happens incredibly fast, usually in the dark. If you’re popping off with a rifle, you are going to hit things you don’t intend to. Guns are tools. Period. Assault Rifles are intended to be used on a battlefield. Battlefield tactics don’t work in your house. It’s a bullshit argument.

  2. I need to protect myself from a tyrannical Government... Holy Shit that’s stupid. That idea was from a time when the state of war was much more level. It isn’t now. At all. If an armored transport shows up on your front lawn with a 50 cal on the roof, you and your AK are fucking toast. Soldiers train, and their weapons are an extension of their body. You will instantly lose. And before you bring up guerrilla fighters in Afghanistan or Iraq... you need a reality check. Those people were born in a country that was at war, on their soil, for their entire lives. You don’t compare to that on your best day. And they die in FAR greater numbers than they kill.

  3. Gun registration, background checks, etc are a slippery slope to confiscation. Bullshit. We register cars. We have to prove proficiency to operate them. We are required to have insurance in the event we cause damage with them. It’s been that way for decades, and no one is “coming to take your car”. Making sure people have the barest minimum of responsibility doesn’t lead to loss. Fear of loss leads to fundraising and bullshit. It’s not rational.

  4. My gun is a right that can’t be modified. Again, utter bullshit. You can’t own a howitzer unless the barrel is full of concrete. You can’t own a cannon manufactured in the last century. You can’t own a fully automatic weapon without a FFL. That’s why those things are rarely used in crimes. And all of that is based on an amendment to our constitution that can be changed if we as a country see fit to do so. We have changed amendments before and we will again. If you don’t understand that you need a history lesson and a dictionary.

Creating common sense laws that put speed bumps in the way of lunatics helps. Every time. Automobile licenses, speed limits, etc don’t end accidents, but they make them less frequent and less deadly. It’s a proven concept. The time for bullshit excuses is over. It’s time to step up and take responsibility. Fuck this stupidity.

Tomfoolery33 9 Aug 12
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Absolutely perfect!

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I am with you.

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In my opinion (and this is gonna be a bit long):
First, I am a liberal. BUT, I am fine with people who are following the law to own guns. I have fired guns. I got to shoot a sniper rifle and several other hand guns and a shot gun (not my fav) via a friend who was in the military. I had fun, it was at targets, in a remote area. I'd do it again! I'm not afraid of the gun owner who follows the law. But, they are not the ones who are going to go out and blow people away for no reason (reflecting on most of the recent gun violence). The gun laws are not equal across every state which is where the problem lies. I live in Cali. We have some of the toughest laws BUT we border Arizona and Nevada which are much more lenient. Are we allowed, as Cali residents, to go across the border and purchase guns or gun parts for certain types of weapons...NO! Do some people...YES! If we can come up with a unified set of laws across the entirety of the states I think this will help. Don't even get me started about what you can buy via the internet!
Second, FACTS! I will say it again, I am a liberal BUT...
Both sides(right and left) love to misinform. Many people just regurgitate bad statistics because they become infuriated by reading them and don't actually research just how truthful they really are. Here's an example I posted on FB because many of my friends were furious about the number of "school shootings" that took place just two months into last year (2018). These "stats" were posted by an ultra liberal group called Everytown and grossly misrepresented:

Most of us, myself included, hear school shooting and think Columbine (or similar). However, the term “school shooting” is also broad in definition; it also applies to a shooting near a school (Grade, High, or College level) and doesn’t differentiate if the school was closed or not and no students present. A list was generated, by an anti-gun advocacy group called Everytown For Gun Safety, who used this muddy description of school shootings to inflame people. Only one of these school shootings used an AR-15 type rifle, the other two were handguns. Here is a list of those 18 “school shootings” and their descriptions:

2018 U.S. school shootings as counted by Everytown
Date Place Details
Jan. 3 East Olive Elementary, St. Johns, Mich. Man committed suicide in parking lot. No other injuries.
(We found the building was not being used as a school, as East Olive had been shut down more than six months earlier.)
Jan. 4 New Start High, Seattle Unidentified shooter fired shots into building. No injuries.
Jan. 10 Grayson College, Denison, Texas Student unintentionally fired a bullet from gun legally possessed by an instructor that struck a wall. No injuries.
Jan. 10 Coronado Elementary, Sierra Vista, Ariz. Student committed suicide in bathroom. No other injuries.
Jan. 10 California State University, San Bernardino Gunshots, most likely fired from off campus, hit a campus building window. No injuries.
Jan. 15 Wiley College, Marshall, Texas Shots fired from car in parking lot, with one shot hitting window of residence hall. No injuries.
Jan. 20 Wake Forest University, Winston-Salem, N.C. One student wounds another student during argument at sorority party.
Jan. 22 Italy High, Italy, Texas Student opens fire in cafeteria, wounding one student before firing at another student and missing. Gun used was a .380 handgun. (dallasnews.com)
Jan. 22 NET Charter High, Gentilly, La. Unknown person fired shots at students standing in parking lot. No injuries from gunshots.
Jan. 23 Marshall County High, Benton, Ky. 2 students left dead in mass shooting by student. More than a dozen students injured. Gun used was a hand gun – no model given, (nypost.com)
Jan. 25 Murphy High, Mobile, Ala. Student fired into the air outside school after argument in school. No injuries.
Jan. 26 Dearborn High, Dearborn, Mich. Individual ejected from game for fighting was shot at in parking lot. No injuries.
Jan. 31 Lincoln High, Philadelphia Man fatally wounded in fight in parking lot.
Feb. 1 Salvador B. Castro Middle, Los Angeles Student unintentionally fires gun in classroom, wounds two students.
Feb. 5 Oxon Hill High, Oxon Hill, Md. Student wounded in parking lot during apparent robbery.
Feb. 5 Harmony Learning K-12, Maplewood, Minn. Student pressed trigger on school liaison officer’s gun. No injuries.
Feb. 8 Metropolitan High, New York, N.Y. Student fired gun into floor in classroom. No injuries.
Feb. 14 Stoneman Douglas High, Parkland, Fla. Ex-student allegedly commits mass shooting; 17 deaths.
Gun used was an AR-15 rifle.

So, there are 18 incidents in which a gun was fired inside a school or on a former or current school property.
Three -- Italy, Texas, Kentucky and Florida -- were mass shootings.
But of the other shootings:
• Nine involved no deaths and no gunshot injuries.
• Two were suicides, with no other injuries (including the one at the closed school).
• Three were unintentional (although one caused injuries).
• One was an apparent robbery in progress.

Third (and Lastly), Buzz words. the words “mass shooting” have a broad meaning with 4 being the magic number most reporting agencies agree on. Many governmental agencies say a mass shooting is defined as 4 or more deaths while still some government offices and media claim a mass shooting is where there are four or more killed OR injured. Here is a list of MASS shootings featuring an AR-15 OR SIMILAR style rifle in the past 35 years:

*Here is a list of mass shootings in the U.S. that featured AR-15 STYLE rifles during the last 35 years, courtesy of the Stanford Geospatial Center and Stanford Libraries and USA TODAY research:

  • • Feb. 24, 1984: Tyrone Mitchell, 28, used an AR-15, a Stoeger 12-gauge shotgun and a Winchester 12-gauge shotgun to kill two and wound 12 at 49th Street Elementary School in Los Angeles before killing himself.
    • Oct. 7, 2007: Tyler Peterson, 20, used an AR-15 to kill six and injure one at an apartment in Crandon, Wis., before killing himself.
    • June 20, 2012: James Eagan Holmes, 24, used an AR-15-style .223-caliber Smith and Wesson rifle with a 100-round magazine, a 12-gauge Remington shotgun and two .40-caliber Glock semi-automatic pistols to kill 12 and injure 58 at a movie theater in Aurora, Colo.
    • Dec. 14, 2012: Adam Lanza, 20, used an AR-15-style rifle, a .223-caliber Bushmaster, to kill 27 people — his mother, 20 students and six teachers — in Newtown, Conn., before killing himself.
    • June 7, 2013: John Zawahri, 23, used an AR-15-style .223-caliber rifle and a .44-caliber Remington revolver to kill five and injure three at a home in Santa Monica, Calif., before he was killed.
    • March 19, 2015: Justin Fowler, 24, used an AR-15 to kill one and injure two on a street in Little Water, N.M., before he was killed.
    • May 31, 2015: Jeffrey Scott Pitts, 36, used an AR-15 and .45-caliber handgun to kill two and injure two at a store in Conyers, Ga., before he was killed.
    • Oct. 31, 2015: Noah Jacob Harpham, 33, used an AR-15, a .357-caliber revolver and a 9mm semi-automatic pistol to kill three on a street in Colorado Springs, Colo., before he was killed.
    • Dec. 2, 2015: Syed Rizwyan Farook and Tashfeen Malik, 28 and 27, used two AR-15-style, .223-caliber Remington rifles and two 9 mm handguns to kill 14 and injure 21 at his workplace in San Bernardino, Calif., before they were killed.
    • June 12, 2016: Omar Mateen, 29, used an AR-15 style rifle (a Sig Sauer MCX), and a 9mm Glock semi-automatic pistol to kill 49 people and injure 50 at an Orlando nightclub before he was killed.
    • Oct. 1, 2017: Stephen Paddock, 64, used a stockpile of guns including an AR-15 to kill 58 people and injure hundreds at a music festival in Las Vegas before he killed himself.
    • Nov. 5, 2017: Devin Kelley, 26, used an AR-15 style Ruger rifle to kill 26 people at a church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, before he was killed.
    • Feb. 14, 2018: Police say Nikolas Cruz, 19, used an AR-15-style rifle to kill at least 17 people at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla.

I agree with some of what you said, but my post didn't say anything about the number of school shootings or the number of mass shootings. It's just ticking off some bullshit points that are always argued when it comes to gun laws. And yes, different states with different laws causes a problem.

@Tomfoolery33 "We have a gun problem and a bullshit problem in the United States." I believe this is the first sentence of your post? While uniform laws across all states will help with the dregs of society NOT having as easy an access to banned guns and gun parts, more laws are not going to keep these same people from committing acts of violence with a firearm. These are the people who don't care and stay under the "radar". Also, misinformation (bullshit) is what propagates most of the anger and knee-jerk reaction by both sides to want a solution today to a problem which isn't as horrific as main stream media would have you believe. I mean, in 35 years we've had 15 mass shootings (to date) with an assault type rifle?! While any shooting like this is tragic, This low number over 35 years hardly seems like it has become a problem of epidemic proportions only recently. The media would have us believe there is one every other day if it would create ratings and politicians would love this to push their conservative or liberal agendas. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but it should be based on facts and research, not some asshole twisting facts to push an agenda (and NO, I was not calling your friend an asshole...it was meant towards mainstream posts listing bogus/twisted facts.). What I posted was an example of the "bullshit" that is getting spewed and people need to really research before they get so infuriated that it clouds their good judgement. I, too, have been guilty of it and it's a slippery slope. That is why I posted the examples.

@GrungeGirl90s And where did you get your facts, and how do you know they are correct? One fact for sure is that there are more gun deaths by far in the US than anywhere else in the world. It's not a coincidence that we have more guns per capita than almost anywhere else, and also far more gun deaths.

@Tomfoolery33 The list of school shootings came from Everytown. They didn't, however, list the circumstances. Those I plugged away over a four day period looking up. ALL of them can be researched by you if you think I am throwing some bull. If you look where I start, "Third (and lastly), I posted the source - it's in italics. Any of those stats can be checked through multiple sources.

Okay, for your last statement. I have this... Before you say where are the numbers coming from, there are similar numbers posted by NPR and PBS.

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I can back you up on one point. i was unarmed when I got shot. I reacted fast and got the gun off the guy. Had I paused to get out a weapon, I'd had had two more holes in me.

@Veteran229 Had I had distance, I wouldn't have been shot. I would have been increasing the distance!!

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Time for the US to grow up & get into this century.

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Your compatriots need to take heed of this and lobby their congressmen and senators to vote for sensible amendments to your gun laws.

haha we have

@Matias Sadly...and as we know, money talks!

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