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Okay., So in the Bible it says god made the angel's to worship him ...
However, never says anything about them having free will.
So, how did the fall of Lucifer happen, without free will.... ?!

It's all bullshit...

AdamSkaggs 3 Sep 13
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Mythology written by primitive men can not be reasoned.

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Yes, it is bullshit. Are you trying to make sense of the bible? I've found that once I took away the outer layer - that men, many men, mostly barely literate men, over many years - wrote this book, then making sense of the rest of it is immaterial except for a strictly historical view.

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It’s allegorical. And all religious texts can be read as allegory.

There are an infinite number of ways to read these types of text so rule number 1, don’t take them literally. Then strip away the top layer and see what you find and remember it is your interpretation that is important, not anyone else or a commentary.

It’s like archeology; the more strata you cut through, the more levels of expression you will find.

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My strong suggestion to you is, stop wasting your precious life ruminating about the Easter Bunny! Such a waste of time!

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..so glad I never had to unlearn that shit. Born once - Atheist ~

Varn Level 8 Sep 14, 2019
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Does the Bible ever say that any creature has free will? Creation myths often end in adventures of the first humans clearly making choices and being held responsible for free thought such as Eve being held responsible for wanting knowledge. I do hear the argument that Satan's fall demonstrates free will by theologians. Frankly though, I would say that our modern definition of the concept is well above the Bible's pay grade.

gearl Level 8 Sep 13, 2019

I think it will probably be to do with the Tree Of Knowledge in Eden

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You make a good point.

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Of course it’s BS. You can’t make rational sense out of old mythical stories, and there’s no sense in dwelling on them unless that’s your field of study.

Maybe it’s implied that they were made with free will. That’s what a fundamentalist might say. What would be the value of their “worship” if they were just robots with no free will or conscious awareness? It would be like having an inflatable girlfriend, rigged up to murmur “I love you”. Wouldn’t that get old quickly?

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