I'm with you on that one.

I beg to differ, there is nothing about veganism that requires me not to be a hedonist. I currently have three flavors of raw vegan ice cream in my freezer that I made myself. (Vanilla, Strawberry Coconut, and Carob-- My base is either frozen bananas or coconut & hemp milk) Plus five different toppings in the fridge: my own Caramel sauce, fresh strawberries, walnuts, cherries, blueberries, chocolate for my friends (I prefer carob)-- You're looking at an ice-cream-ophile. I'm an absolute hedonist, only for all time and all beings, not just me here now. Public Service Announcement: So Delicious, Nada Moo, and Coconut Bliss are just three of the top most delicious brands of coconut-based nondairy ice cream, available at most health food stores. Miyoko's makes the best vegan cheese and there are also lots of meat substitutes-- Beyond Meat & Gimme Lean stand out in memory. In blind taste tests some couldn't even tell the difference. Lots more choices in the stores these days than there were when I went vegan 16 years ago. Veganism is not about self-deprivation. It's about expanding your love to include other sentient beings. <3

I personally don't care what a person I don't know eats. However for some people that are ethical vegans (vegetarians don't have a foot to stand on). Telling them to respect you because you respect them is just like asking a person that pays taxes to respect someone that doesn't. It's like telling someone that takes care of their children to respect those who neglect and abuse theirs. The point is veganism is morally superior than carnism as it minimizes the harm to self, our fellow creatures and the planet. You might not like feeling bad or critiqued about your diet but if you support freedom of speech you shouldn't mind what people say especially when it's not offensive and has logic to it.

Hmmmm, and just what flavor of ice cream is the only thing in question here.

Is this a problem in your life? Sorry you have intolerant friends. Get some new ones.

Idated a vegan for a short while. became a vegan for 10 days. sat bolt upright in bed at 2am, got dressed and bought a steak at the 24 hour grocery. red meat has a complex amino acid that is not found in any other food.

I am a beef farmer so, vegan is paramount to blasphemy. I might also mention that I have been attacked here as well for eating animal flesh.

Veganism can be a bit self righteous and dogmatic, if you ask me. It's cool if someone is dedicated enough to really live that lifestyle. In most places, it's a bit of extra work to commit to setting yourself apart from the mainstream of day to day behavior. So, yay for vegans! Personally, my health suffers without animal protein. There is a moral component to being a meat eater or not because an animal has to die before you can eat it. But the same as a lion or a housecat or a wolf must kill to eat, so must you. Unless you're a vegan. It's pretty well established that the natural state of homo sapien is omnivorous. I like to acknowledge that meat was an animal with a life. And be grateful for it. I think it's immoral not to be aware that you take life when you eat meat. I don't think it's immoral to eat it.