yeah it’s getting a bit precise, but gnostic and agnostic are modifiers. like there are gnostic christians and agnostic christians, and the same goes for any other position. i was only ever shown gnostic atheism because religion needs a strawman to attack lol

i’ve now heard of people doing secular homeschooling, but everyone i knew growing up did it to indoctrinate their kids. we’d always fight that we weren’t unsocialized we were socialized with church groups and other homeschooled kids. all my media was controlled by my parents well into my teens (the rule was “no secular music” and PG13 movies has to be watched by them first, for example). so i fully understand why people cringe at the mention of homeschool now. it’s a little crazy to think about the things i was taught.

thank you in my experience, it’s a pretty awful thing to lose faith at first. i guess with any huge shift in worldview like that, it’s scary and confusing. i find it hard to blame people for clinging to faith tbh.

I may be wrong, but a gnostic atheist is one who claims to know there is no god, and an agnostic atheist is one who does not believe there is a god.

@basher I’d found this chilling several years ago, and had assumed ‘this’ was what ‘Homeschooling’ meant to the religious:
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Had you been ‘trained’ for any of the same?

@Varn i wasn’t “trained” in so many words. i never actually hear the term “culture war” until i became an atheist, but the feel of it was always there in my home and church. my dad still believes scientists are either lying or deceived about things like evolution and psychology relating to queer people, etc. we weren’t like apocalypse preppers, but there was this general “understanding” that the world was always getting worse and christians were under attack

@Varn yeah i was never really shown any kind of agnosticism. there was only christians who “know” god and atheists who say they know there is no god. goes along with the very black-and-white thinking of religion tbh

it’s pretty crazy for me to realize there are other texans who think this way too, since all the ones i knew growing up were religious. but i do wonder if things are changing slowly. neither of my siblings are christian either, though not quite atheist.