If Jesus had been real he would appear in the history books and not just the bible.
Checkmate theists!
If I weren't banned from the Xian forums I'd have posted this there. I wish there were more believers on this site so we could argue stuff like this. 
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There were lots of real people who never made it to the history books, so that's not really a convincing argument. I personally think that Jesus was a composite person made up from tales of different wandering preachers, but obviously there's no proof of that.
Tomfoolery33
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Nov 8, 2019
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That makes for a reasonable argument but with no proof it's just an opinion. Also, given the global reach and impact of the Jesus myth to billions, had he been real , he would be included in history. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous.
@Sgt_Spanky Yes, but his impact wasn't huge at the time. It was much much later. Even 200 years later Christianity only amounted to a small cult. You can't go back and add stuff into history when there were no current references that mentioned him. He was nothing to the Romans. Of course all this pertains only if he really existed. I'm just saying even if he had, no one would have mentioned such a minor and unimportant figure at the time.
@Tomfoolery33 Are you seriously making this argument? No. He was significant enough throughout antiquity to build a global religion around him. In the bible, he's the messiah on the night of his birth. The bible claims him to be the most important man ever born. If that were so, history woulld've seen fit to include him.
My point is, he's only in the bible for the same reason Humpty-Dumpty is only in Mother Goose -- history doesn't include characters from works of fiction.
@Sgt_Spanky No I think that Sgt Spanky is quite correct, but it all depends on which Jesus you are talking about. If you are talking about the Jesus of the bible who worked miracles, and caused armies of the dead to rise from the ground, then yes you are correct it would be surprising if he did not make it into the history books. But if you are talking about a minor rabbi who established a cult with only a dozen followers, which only later grew to be a major religion, as old myths and legends attached themselves to what was originally a minor figure, then yes he could have escaped history in his own time.
Remember Friar G. Mendle is now regarded as one of the nineteenth centuries great scientists. Yet had you asked any historian who he was just over a hundred year ago, they would have said. "Who."
@Sgt_Spanky Jesus didn’t build the religion. That was the mission of Paul. And his theology was not encouraged in Jerusalem.
At the time the region was replete with apocalyptic preachers mostly railing about the Roman occupation and that the Messiah must becoming in a minute. The same as any other period in history when all seems doomed for whatever reason!
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