@ToolGuy I am glad you are not arguing for that, but you seem to be calling for an end to capitalism. Isn’t capitalism the private ownership of capital, I.e. the means of production? Just what system do you propose?

@ToolGuy Finance, insurance and real estate markets are very much a vital part of the overall economy. They might not produce GOODS, but they provide SERVICES, service that are much needed.

Capital might be represented by money, but the real capital is the actual means for production, such as buildings, tools, machinery, land, etc. Every economy in the world that has ever existed had capital. Even a clan of chimpanzees has capital, such as their trees and the rocks and sticks they use for tools.

You might tax the holdings of service industries but you are not ever going to eliminate capitalism.

@ToolGuy Of course controls and regulations are needed. I don’t argue that. Go ahead and tax the hell out of those oligarchs—I don’t care. You are the one mistaking those fat cats with capitalism, judging by your original post.

Speculation is a necessary endeavor and markets wouldn’t work without speculation. Speculation evens out the wild swings in price and prevents shortages and gluts. Speculators provide a service both when they buy and when they sell. They make money by bearing risk. You hear all about it if someone doubles their money in a market, but they often lose money and nobody cares about that.

@ToolGuy If we are fixated on our argument, we become closed minds. We cannot see other POVs. I made sound arguments.

@ToolGuy Yes, wait because I waited and everybody I knew waited. That is what people who have respect for the rule of law do in life. I have had difficult times in life, went to bed on memory stomach in New York a few times but not even once I expected or received government assistant or charity of any kind. I want people to retain self dignity and not expect other people to lift their weight. I have lived slums overseas but I did not beg or expect charity. If you have the real heart for them, go to their countries and teach them self reliance, help them do that. But don't advocate giving my money to your cause.

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Do you know how many people are trying and surviving without asking for a handout in this world?

Why has the United States become the refugee camp for Mexico, Central and South America alone?

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Americans have built this home over 200 years. They have the right to decide how to run it and who to allow from outside. Others cannot decide. American laws are compassionate and they have allowed millions of people from around the world, do it every year, help millions more with international aid. The doors at U.S. missions are open to anyone to apply and wait. There is no need to storm at the border and claim a right to asylum. There is no right. It is a privilege. Americans don't need lectures from others on what to do about immigration. I have tremendous respect about how The United States have opened the doors to people from around the world and given them opportunities. We allow people on many grounds but we don't allow law breaking and tactics like overwhelming the system.

@ToolGuy Are you able to see anything good or only see what and where it is not good? Glass half empty and never half full?

@ToolGuy You are constantly bashing the United States whether it is capitalism, immigration or people. What good do you see that Canada can learn from?