Agnostic.com

2 1

Father knows Best??

Imagine we have a father named Mr. Jones. His son has a playmate who lives next door. Both boys have been told multiple times not to play ball near the house. One day, while the Jones boy was visiting his grandmother, the boy next door plays ball near the house anyway and breaks Mr. Jones' window. So, the little boy tells Mr. Jones that he broke the rule and is sorry. He asks Mr. Jones to forgive him. Imagine Mr. Jones telling the little boy, "Yes, I can forgive you. But first I must beat my own son with a belt.......so I can forgive you." Now Mr. Jones has the full power to just forgive the boy. But no! He chooses to beat his own son first.

What kind of father would do such a thing? Christians believe that a God so powerful, and so wonderful, a God which spoke the Universe into existence with nothing, can't figure out a better way to forgive sinners than having his own son tortured and murdered.

mecornett 3 Dec 29
Share

Enjoy being online again!

Welcome to the community of good people who base their values on evidence and appreciate civil discourse - the social network you will enjoy.

Create your free account

2 comments

Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.

1

Eh, it's all about substitutionary atonement and blood sacrifice, dontcha know.

Two thousand years ago the goatherds who wrote the Bible thought nothing of such things. It was how everyone thought.

1

to put the Southern Bible Belt spin on it. the idea that the suffering of the father witnessing the suffering of the Son is greater than the suffering of the Son. and by the willingness of the father to allow this demonstrates the greatest love imaginable for the world. and it is crucial that the Son does this of his own free will and is not commanded to do so, simply asked. this is the whole bit about Jesus interceding for the sins of man. it is Jesus who makes the saved call not god the father. anyway that's kind of the Christian twist. the father's willingness to forsake the son for the love of God is also present in the Abraham and Isaac story.

But hankster, didn't Jesus himself say that he would that this cup be passed from him, near the time of the crucifixion? Didn't that mean that he would rather not be crucified?

And that would be a natural reaction. But the whole point is.......none of that would have been necessary, since God himself makes all the rules. After all.......he created the Universe!

But you're right, that is the Bible Belt spin!

@mecornett yes Jesus preferred not to be crucified of course, but apparently he elected to fulfill God's will over his own preferences. whereas god sought to demonstrate his love for man, he relies on Jesus to make the show. perhaps God couldn't do this because he couldn't die. all just a biblical story in any case.

You can include a link to this post in your posts and comments by including the text q:443687
Agnostic does not evaluate or guarantee the accuracy of any content. Read full disclaimer.