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Why dowsing is a con:
[video.arstechnica.com]

Allamanda 8 Jan 10
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I have seen people do it and convence others it was real. It was very easy to get caught up in. The problem was there is no evidence it works at all.

I would consider the fact that it works evidence.

@hankster Prayers work too according to many. "It works" is not evidence. It takes standing up to science to be evidence. Show me peer reviewed studies.

@DavidLaDeau naw... you show me evidence that it don't. it's no card trick. lack of scientific proof is no proof of anything.

If you were holding the dowsing rod and it suddenly plunged down, would that be evidence?

@WilliamFleming noway... some unseeable Force like god is trying to trick me. trying to make me think this water in the ground is doing it.

@WilliamFleming not unless the experiment was repeatable with anyone that used it, and it could be proven to work anywhere anytime. That is science. The next great step would be a discovery that explains why it happens.

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I took part in a dowsing process once. I went from being a total skeptic to believing. It was a shocking experience to be holding the forked branch and have it plunge down. I have since started having doubts though because I experimented with it under controlled conditions and couldn’t get it to work, or the effect was very flukey.

I still retain an open mind. There are a lot of things in nature that are not understood.

I've never been around it where they use the forked stick. we clipped a coat hanger and bent it. made 2 L shaped parts. maybe 9x4 long and short sides. while Loosely holding the shorter leg... while walking across slowly the land the two longer legs lineup when above a water line or stream.

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I've seen this work for water lines more than once firsthand. there's no magic no Wizardry, but there's something going on about water in a line. I don't know about oil or minerals or any of the rest of that stuff, but it will work for water. I am 100% sure.

I have heard a relative did so with consistant success. This being said until it can be proven that it does work in a controlled study I remain skeptical, even when I see appearant "hits".

@DavidLaDeau sometimes I get a bit skeptical about skepticisms.

@hankster IMO all these ardent professional skeptics are unscientific. The true spirit of science is to have an open mind.

@WilliamFleming an unhealthy skepticism.

@WilliamFleming Not so open It your brain falls out. Open mindedness does not mean one should accept anything one is told.

@DavidLaDeau It means you should be willing to look at the evidence and to change your beliefs. I think if you had experienced dowsing in the way I did your belief would be shaken, as mine was. Protecting your world view against encroachment is not science.

I’m still not totally convinced about the subject—just mystified.

@WilliamFleming I agree, I was very impressed by what I saw with a fellow finding graves. It would be easy to write his skill off to magic. I was mystifed. I just like to keep myself honest and make sure what appears to be real is.

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Drilling for water better be far far away from fracking that causes earthquakes and poisons ground water for miles around

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