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A church in my town spent a ton of $ to build this massive white cross outside their church. Why not use that $ for charity, like Jesus would of, the man they worship? This is a genuine question. I don't understand, like also w/Joel Osteen's mega church and some others. It makes me sad.

I've heard people in my town say "It's such a beautiful cross!" It's a useless attraction when all that money could of gone to so many good causes around the world and even in my town. 😠😠

VeronicaAnn 7 Apr 17
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To me, it’s the equivalent of a giant Swastika - prettymuch meaning the same thing. Hideous, wrong, and attempting to project a lie mere words can’t sell.

Varn Level 8 Apr 17, 2020

@Omnedon -- Swastika = Hakenkreuz = bent/hooked cross = cross with its arms bent. The Hakenkreuz is an ancient religious symbol used commonly among Eurasian peoples, but also around the world in many cultures. The work of European linguists and other scholars on the origins of the Swastika (from the Sanskrit svastika) was taken up by racist groups, for whom the swastika was a symbol of “Aryan identity” and German nationalist pride. This conjecture of Aryan cultural descent of the German people is likely one of the main reasons why the Nazi Party formally adopted the swastika or Hakenkreuz as its symbol in 1920.

Eliminating the connotation issue, it is a cross and it is associated with religions and religious practices. I understand your position regarding its not representing anything even slightly related to the meaning and purpose of the cross as used by the myriad extensions and cults of Jesus worshiping Abrahamic religions, but that is not what @Varn was saying. He is also correct in that the symbol of the church has been the source of suffering, enslavement, and death through the centuries since it was adopted. In that respect, yes, there is an equivalence.

@Omnedon -- I can see we have a problem in communication here, or you didn't read carefully enough. That is what I said. I also pointed out that in the sense that both symbols have represented very bad things to certain peoples around the world, in that sense there is an equivalence. I don't mind you defending the cross from the perspective of a believer in that particular form of religion, but I can tell you that I had people in my family history who reacted to the sight of the cross in much the same way and with the same revulsion as many who see the swastika on display. It really is a matter of perspective. Not everyone sees through the same eyes.

@Omnedon In my nation, they are. Given ‘one party rule,’ their hierarchy and followers would be nearly identical to hitler’s nazis.

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Jesus is a bit of an embarrassing after thought to many modern Christians, a wine drinking, long haired, bearded, hippie socialist, transvestite, peacenik.
The cross is a much stronger symbol for modern church, being as it appears more like an upturned sword stuck in a stone, ready to be drawn and smite the unbeliever.

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If these people really were interested in worshiping Jesus then they would more than likely know what Jesus said. If people claim to be Jesus worshipers then they would worship the hungry, worship the thirsty, worship strangers and treat them as guest, worship those that need clothes and worship(and take care of) those sick and in prison.

Is modern Christianity (as a whole) doing any true worship of Jesus?

Matthew 25:40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

Word Level 8 Apr 17, 2020

Matthew always was the drama queen of the bunch! Even more so than Paul.

Love his writing!

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A cross like that is not meant to attract the flock. It is meant to intimidate outsiders. It is disgusting.

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