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On this day for us to demonstrate support for environmental protection, I would like to bring up how I see the Christian and Muslim faiths as inherently counterproductive to this cause through their belief of a heavenly afterlife and their apparent predisposition for jingoistic behavior. I have always viewed the “rapture” myth believed by some Christian sects as most dangerous to our future on this planet.

What are your thoughts in this?

RobertLudwick 4 Apr 22
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There are and have been numerous religious based organizations that actively support our life support system. After finally ditching my religion I joined one of these. It was called "Earth Ministry." It was a non-denomination group composed mainly of Unitarians and liberal Catholics and was founded on the principle idea of stewardship. It was a good group but my then late partner didn't feel comfortable and got us to quit. I agree, how can a group devote themselves fully on the Earth when their eyes are often fixed to the sky (heaven).

That’s what we need more of, I think. Religion will always be a part of our society whether we like it or not. However, some of these belief systems really need to conform to a philosophy that is sustainable beyond “End times” mentality.

@RobertLudwick There are many, more liberal religions. But last I heard they are being swamped by the more vicious and extremist groups. A lot of the liberal groups are becoming nones.

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Sad to say that it is true. Because of course the Middle Eastern sky god religions grew in a part of the planet where nature is at it most harsh and inhuman, among the nomadic shepherds who only saw flocks as having any value, and the old men who controlled those flocks as the masters to be obeyed. In the desert there is no choice of lifestyle, no fishing communities, no logging, no farming, you are a warrior fighting to control the flocks in a world without hiding places, you therefore obey the tribe and it leaders or you die. So the religion reflects their small local and narrow bleak world.

It is also sad because of course it is illogical in their own terms. "How can you claim to honour God, yet despise his creation." If you are a creationist and a believer in the end times, then surely you can not celebrate the worlds destruction. To win gods approval surely you must use your last breath as the flaming darts fall, to still protect the last bird or flower, and show thereby you value his creation even at the end. But then logic was never a big thing with religion.

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