Are there any other people here who were raised to a religion that is not Christian based? I myself am a secular Jew who was not brought up in the faith. Once Grandma was gone, there were no more celebrations. Neither of my two marriages were to a Jewish man. Both came from Christian backgrounds.
I have always been the outsider. I think many former Christians here may be rejecting the faith so strongly now because they watch too much Television and spend too much time on social media blathering about Trump, gun control, the alt right, and the news of the day and what role the Evangelical Right has in this mess our country is in. A lot of this has to do with willful ignorance and blindness.
Talk is cheap.
Really getting to know about an individual is more than his or her religion or politics. People's actions count for something. There are those you don't or won't see on your screens unless there's a news crew with a motive covering the events with the usual media "spin" or if they are self promoting. There are people without any major resources making a difference, if you close your eyes and your mind, you won't see them either.
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.I don't see evidence that former Christians "strongly reject" their faith for any reason other than the harms they had a ringside seat to. I left evangelical fundamentalism behind in the 1990s, well before the Trumpist creepshow and not particularly because of its precursors like Moral Majority / Liberty University and the Pat Robertson campaign for President. I left it because it's a failed epistemology that utterly failed to accurately explain or predict experienced reality.
Yes, individuals are, or at least can be, more than their religion and politics. Sadly, some are nothing more than that these days, given their devition to their particular ideological ghettoes.
And yes, events are way more than the media reports. If you pay attention only to that, you might end up swinging from a rafter.
My operational theory is that the only inherently sustainable way forward for humanity is diversity, inclusiveness, and connection. Everything that works against that and for tribalism, authoritarianism, and such, inherently has to fail. The only open question is how long it will take and how much human suffering will happen in the meantime.
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Perhaps because you are approaching this site with a different point of view? I never had a ringside seat, though I tried gaining admittance as an adult with mixed results. There are a lot of people here who speak as if they are being persecuted for not believing. I have always been the outsider, though I have learned a lot about religion and rejected the idea of a god head.
@pegasus1074 Ah, I see. I have never seen it as persecution. I'm an atheist and probably somewhere between 75% and 95% of society is not. I'm also, for example, an introvert, and probably 75% of society is not. One then expects society to be optimized for theists and extroverts. It's not personal that it doesn't cater so much to me in those areas.
The really astounding thing is how fundamentalist Christians think they're "persecuted" in America on the simple basis that not 100% of everyone in society agrees with them. There's even LESS basis for their persecution fantasies, than for those of atheists or agnostics.
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