Hi - as we've heard overt threats by a sitting President not to respect the outcome of the election, and as we've seen overt actions by him to try to undermine the voting process, and as we've seen virtually no action by his party to say anything against this, and as we've seen the President overtly encourage violent conflict, I thought I'd try a brief simple poll:
Who here agrees with me that we are already in the process of watching an attempted takeover of the United States Government?
Hi -
The point of my poll question on September 30 was to draw attention to the fact that we were already watching a takeover attempt. I think that indeed we are and have been watching this.
As to whether it would be effective, I think we dodged the bullet of a country's lifetime by barely defeating the would-be dictator in the general election, and that this amounted to barely defeating the takeover attempt since the takeover attempt was largely in trying to suppress the vote .... and some of the vote was indeed successfully suppressed by Trump... but not quite enough for him to win.
Again, the President tried to slow down the mail service, in the middle of a pandemic when people needed to vote by mail to preserve their health, and he did this to try to take over the government.
I haven't come across a single news story which attempts to diagnose how many hundreds of thousands votes (or perhaps millions) were successfully prevented from being cast and counted by the mail system slowdown. For example, I have run across news and anecdotes that in some situations college kids voting for the first time did not receive their absentee ballot information in time to vote.
The President once bragged that he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose voters. There are reasons he would say this that speak to his understanding of why people were voting for him, but it also speaks to us examining some of the stuff he has pulled, and our failure to highlight it and vote accordingly. His slowdown of the mail system, and the lack of TIMELY news coverage of whether in the end this did prevent hundreds of thousands or millions of voters from voting, and the question of whether this might have meant a proper Biden victory in a landslide,..... these actions and issues are to me an example of American Intellectual Bankruptcy, of desperation for a candidate who satisfies the anti-Liberal criteria of many voters, and of how we could have had such a President for four years.
If and when reputable research teams and reporters do try to track down the news and information story of the gaging the number of votes that were suppressed, part of the research and news should be gaging the number of extra people who died because they had to go to the polls rather than trust the mail service to get their vote in.
I highly doubt there will be a takeover.... Maybe a few "incidents " here and there like we have now.. There doesn't seem to be any real organization of trump supporters to attempt a real takeover.. Plus, they're basically cowards... And dumb. If they do try, they will be utterly destroyed
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I agree and I will bet that Trump will dispute the election results if he loses and AG Barr will help him..... again outsmarting the Democrats for the 21st time in 4 years.
I am still not giving Biden more than 50:50 chances of winning.
You were right. The chances estimate that you made drew attention to what a close call this might be (which it was), and the prediction of Trump disputing the results has born out.
@kmaz
Here are the possibilities of what may happen after Trump leaves the White House: