A story about my father in law shortly after we met.
Him - I'm open minded but don't go in for this evolution thing.
Me - Why
Him - well for starters why are there still monkeys.
Me - We did not descend from monkeys, we are apes. We are part of the great ape family like baboons, chimps and gorillas. We evolved into us and them into them.
Him - ok fine but how come we have finished evolving.
Me - We have not. Forget wisdom teeth and our fucked backs you can see it in our immediate history. We are getting taller for one. Every suite of armour looks like it was built for very short people. It's so rapid that when I was a child 5'9 was normal and now it's 5'10
We are not a finished product, nothing is.
Him - ... An interesting viewpoint. What about God.
Me - I don't know, I have serious doubts and I have no idea how life started but I can see how it is constantly changing.
This was followed by beer, lots of beer and fun chats about bullshit. I found out later he actually now has no problems with the theory of evolution. I wonder if it's just not explained properly in school?
I think you're right, Daniel...it's NOT explained properly in school. Public schools are under pressure to be ''politically correct,'' which is total nonsense. As a 25-year zoo educator, I find I can explain evolution quickly and clearly to almost anyone over the age of 10. But, sometimes, I see the faces cloud over, because I've mentioned the "E" word.
baboons are monkeys as they have tails, Orangutans are the other great ape. and our changing height has more to do with diet then evolution.
but otherwise well done!
a change in diet is not 'a clear' indication of evolution, simply biology, I was trying to congratulate you and give you some tips for next time.
the best argument i found, is that whilst evolution by natural selection is technically 'a theory' evolution is not as speciation through artificial selection has been forced in laboratory environments countless times. its only our lack of ability to observe the entire natural world that has limited our proving of 'natural selection'
I always find a debate is best aided by beer/wine until it gets really messy then time for bed. And no regrets about what you said in the morning.
Nice dailogue by the way ,your Father in Law sounds cool and yes they don't teach evolution very well in schools. Not that evolution disproves there is a god anyhows, but we should at least know the statement "we descended from monkeys" is not what happened.