@altschmerz it's not on line just in my old university files

Very good. I think we're both in the same park. Mine is just a bit more succinct and would make a better "poster". They both make the point.

Well, the problem is that NO RELIGION is "pure and faultless." And, if only Jesus was pure and faultless, the rest of us being sinners from the moment of our birth, and this being the reason for needing salvation, how could religion ever be pure and faultless?

@Joanne what religion are you talking about? You are implying a different definition for religion that has nothing to do with the religion of helping widows and orphans while avoiding worldly corruption.

@Joanne are you talking about the religion of giving sarcasm worship to the non-existent flying spaghetti monster sky God making fun of Christians?

@Word. I am saying that no pure and faultless religion exists. Christianity is not simply about taking care of widows and orphans in practice and it never has been; and I don't know of any religion that is.

@Joanne I am not talking about christianity. I am referring to the religion of helping widows and orphans while avoiding worldly corruption.

@Word I think you are referring to a way of life rather than a religion. Theravada Buddhism is the closest to your description that I know of in practical terms. And as there is no god involved in that branch of Buddhism it can't really be described as a religion. If you can add any thing else to enlighten me I would be pleased to hear it.

@Paul_Clamberer just google search.

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Jainism is a religion without a belief in a creator god.
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@Paul_Clamberer then, ad I have researched "religion". A way to give a modern interpretation of what was originally ment would be to use the word "responsibility ". from Old French, or from Latin religio(n- ) ‘obligation, bond, reverence’, perhaps based on Latin religare ‘to bind’.

If you are to be bound to something as in 'to bind" it could be like saying you are tied to having a responsibility.

@Word My dictionary (shorter OED) doesn't seem to separate the word religion from the worship of, or belief in, a gods or a god. In this light, Jainism is more a way of life, I would have thought. Possibly your dictionary is different

@Paul_Clamberer I understand dictionaries can have some differences between brands. Most often, I think, dictionary would have most popular common usage but at times list that words may have different meanings. It just depends on the dictionary editors.

@Word As for Janism, Sure thing, but a difficult one to follow. Be careful while walking, you might step on an ant, and becareful about breathing, you might kill a microbe. I'll pass on that one!

@Word You brought Christianity to the forefront by quoting James--from the New Testament of the bible.

@Joanne I understand christianity is as well derived from biblical text. But, just to use, read or quote from biblical text does not make me nor the topic quoted to be Christian.

There are things Christian that are not considered biblical. And, there are biblical things not considered christian. So, you only assumed it was Christian related because biblical text was used.

@powder Can we just agree that extremism of any kind is best to be avoided, or are there any Sophists out there who want to argue on the virtues of extremism?