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My response to an allegedly pro-capitalism article at an insulated echo-chamber:

The site owner at Capitalism Magazine has declined to approve my post, so I'm putting it here. In response to this article:

[capitalismmagazine.com]
Why Vote Anti-Democrat This Election
by Mark Da Cunha | Oct 29, 2020

This is how I responded:

Hi -

For what it's worth:

  • I think you (and many others who seek to support “capitalism” ) misunderstood some of the Biden/Harris Administration positions to be more anti-capitalist than they are. In those cases where you've gauged their positions correctly, I think you've exaggerated the threat (in effect: participated in the widespread (and I think facile or gratuitous or hysterical) demonization of Biden/Harris and many of their supporters).

  • At the same time, I think you (and many others) misunderstood the Trump Administration to be more supportive of business and capitalism than it was. In those cases where you may have gauged his administration correctly as supporting capitalism, I think you've badly underestimated the threat that Trump and his supporters posed to our country, as the price to be paid for his ostensible support of capitalism here
    or there.

The net effect is you've supported casting a vote for moving much closer to an end to the rule of law in the US. This was not only my opinion, but the opinion of some thoughtful professionals from Trump’s own party:

[washingtonpost]....
Former U.S. attorneys — all Republicans — back Biden, saying Trump threatens‘the rule of law’
ByTom Hamburger and Devlin Barrett
Oct. 27, 2020 at 8:32 a.m. MST

In your involved ratiocinations above, you not only got this vote wrong, but it wasn't the close call you have made it out to be. In my opinion, those of us who wanted the American experiment to continue for another four years voted for Biden/Harris in a desperate attempt to save our country from an obvious violent despot and his many supporters. Had Trump succeeded in his predictable broad-daylight attempt to overthrow our system, or if he had been lawfully re-elected, the US I think would be, in effect, over, as a nation of laws.

Trump once boasted:

"..."I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" Trump remarked at a campaign stop at Dordt College in Sioux Center, Iowa. "It's, like, incredible."...."

[npr.org]...
Donald Trump: 'I Could ... Shoot Somebody, And I Wouldn't Lose Any Voters'
January 23, 2016 5:00 PM ET
Colin Dwyer

I think this fits with my point about demonization: what would it have taken for you and others to take your eyes off of the level of threat allegedly posed by the left and give proper recognition (not just lip-service) to the threat posed by the right? I think the answer, unfortunately, is that for many claimed defenders of capitalism, nothing would have allowed for this. It wouldn't have mattered. In advocating for capitalism, it is in some contexts or ways easier to make and understand and get behind the anti-socialism arguments than to make and understand and get behind the anti-fascism
arguments.

Did Trump stand on Fifth Avenue and shoot anyone? No.

Did he kill thousands (and more) extra people via extraordinary reckless pandemic malfeasance? Yes. Did he start a heartbreaking campaign of chipping away at voting rights early in his presidency? Yes. Did he end it with an astonishing killing of even more voters by deliberately slowing down the mail system in the middle of one of the worst natural disasters we have ever faced such that citizens would have to risk their lives even more to vote? Yes. Was this a Presidential move that will live in infamy? I think so. Did he commit other serious actionable offenses during his 4 years on the job? Yes. Did he also engage in plain old unbecoming comportment (including championing ad homenim argumentation night and day). Yes.

The point isn’t any more to go point by point whether on actionable offenses or personal behavior complaints. The test here was to listen and figure out that this job re-hire candidate conveyed, pretty clearly, that he had real honest-to-goodness contempt for the rule of law. He had contempt for the job itself. This was clear to many of us in 2016 as we watched as our nation hired a voracious fox to "guard the henhouse/Constitution ". In 2020, it was not the right call in my opinion to just go ahead and vote to re-hire such a person for the job of defending the Constitution. For those who voted for him this time around, even given his post-election broad-daylight takeover attempt, I don't know if many of you will allow yourselves a real honest hard look at whether you made a mistake. To do this, I think it would be necessary to review the premise that Biden/Harris was supposedly so awful that anyone would be better. I have seen very few willing to review that notion. So, I guess my attempt at a constructive suggestion is to see if it would be possible to give real consideration to the idea that Biden/Harris is not as inimical to capitalism as has been assumed by so many.

kmaz 7 Mar 20
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And F Capitalism Magazine for not publishing your comment. Thanks for posting it here.

I had my doubts , thanks for the supportive comments.

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Well done. I'm hoping we move beyond capitalism myself. Haven't found the quote yet, but here is a rough paraphrasing.

"To understand capitalism, you need only understand that to a capitalist, the forest only has value when you cut down the trees."

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