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Reality cannot be denied.

bobhoff59 7 Apr 21
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Who's reality?

Coldo Level 8 Apr 21, 2018

That's part of the problem. There is only one reality. It is objective. Just like there is no such thing as alternative facts (alternative facts = lies) there is also no such thing as alternative realities (alternative realities = fantasies).

@bobhoff59 everyones "reaiity" differs slightly. No two people share the same "reality" That is the nature of human perception. And not everyone is convinced the "Moon Landings" actually happend for instance.

@Coldo The point is that they did whether or not you're convinced of it or not. That is my point. Reality is not subjective. Moon landings happened whether you believe it or not. Evolution happened whether creationist believe it or not. The world is round whether flat Earthers believe it or not. That is the cool thing about facts and reality it doesn't care whether you believe it it is still the only true truth.

@Coldo BTW, I would only agree to the statement that everyone's perception of reality differs, there is only one true reality.

@bobhoff59 The logic of that escapes me. Because someone said something happened it happened! That would make The Bible true, i thought proof was the factor that makes reality? Without proof anything is just an theory.

@Coldo no, not because someone said, but because there is undeniable evidence unless you are a complete kook that it actually occurred. People who were there, people who monitored and supported the landings, video, samples of moon dust and rocks brought home. Tons and tons of hard evidence that would require the most massive and inconcievable conspiracy of all time to fake. Just like those who believe in a flat Earth, or creationism, you have to have a serious screw loose to believe that bullshit.

@bobhoff59 Darwins Theory Of Evolution, Einsteins Theory Of Relativity, because they don't meet the criteria of "proof"

@Coldo The formal scientific definition of theory is quite different from the everyday meaning of the word. It refers to a comprehensive explanation of some aspect of nature that is supported by a vast body of evidence.

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@bobhoff59 Still a theory no matter how you try to define it.Facts have to be proven, science is not exempt. Theory is theory until there is absolute proof.

@Coldo you did not read or you did not understand. Evolution is a Fact, period. No intelligent person denies that truth.

In science, a "fact" typically refers to an observation, measurement, or other form of evidence that can be expected to occur the same way under similar circumstances. However, scientists also use the term "fact" to refer to a scientific explanation that has been tested and confirmed so many times that there is no longer a compelling reason to keep testing it or looking for additional examples. In that respect, the past and continuing occurrence of evolution is a scientific fact.

@bobhoff59 Understood it, facts are only facts when they can be proven absolutely. Science only verifies facts by absolute proof, if that can not be done theory is used.The laws of physics etc are not laws until they can be proven absolutely. Scientific proof demands absolutes.

@Coldo So you know better than all the highly celebrated intellects at the National Academy of Sciences who say the biological evolution is a fact. You know what, I think I will throw my support behind them. You have the right to believe any damn foolish thing you want. Have a great day.

@Coldo From more scientist:

The American Chemical Society (ACS) strongly supports the inclusion of evolution in K–12 science curricula at an age-appropriate level because this theory is central to our modern understanding of science. The theory of evolution is not a hypothesis, but the scientifically accepted explanation of the INCONTROVERTABLE FACT that life and its many forms has changed over the years.

@bobhoff59 You too.

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