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I have a question for you all: do you find that fraternal organizations (eg. VFW, DAV, American Legion, AmVets, Eagles, Moose, Elks) in your locale are generally ultra-conservative Christians? They all are here, but that is true of most people “here”, so I am wondering whether I could expect more of the same if I move to a more liberal location. I like being able to volunteer and have no objection to the charities that are helped by my local organizations, as well as the opportunities for socialization, but would like to know if I would encounter people whose values are more aligned with my own elsewhere.

KateOahu 8 Dec 12
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@Wangobango3 Are you Canadian? A lot if Canadians, especially Alberta’s, come here for winter. Your statement doesn’t hold true with the snowbirds.

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They're conservative in my area. I'm in a red part of a blue state. Maybe it's different in NYC?

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They tend to lean that way, but the VFW , LEGION and DAV primarily support veterans.
I also think that the Moose and Elks are good organizations.. I just really don't talk politics and get along fine. Like everything, there are good and bad things ???

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I live in what some would consider a mixed area but I find it to be conservative. Even groups that are secular tend to end up with a lot of religious people and discussion, and the default setting is for them to assume I am as well. The only variance to this is the Asian organizations. I've found that even when the people belong to religions, they tend to consider it more of a community/networking thing. But I have recently, here and there, found more and more freethinkers, so if you can ignore the others, it may be worth pursuing the ones you have an interest in, and maybe you'll get lucky.

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Freemasons are forbidden, by their charter rules, to discuss religion or politics in the Lodge. If I were ever to join a fraternal organization, it's Masons for me. (Plus, maybe they really do rule the world, in which case I could get in on the action.)

Unless things have changed recently, my gender renders me ineligible with the Masons. My stepfather was one; my mother could only join Eastern Star.

@MsKathleen I honestly have no idea, I've never tried to join.

@MsKathleen It always used to be the case in England that the Queen was a member of the Masons. Because it was said that as a monarch she was an honorary male. LOL A female friend of mine asked, Where the honor was in that ?

@Paul4747 WHO CAN BE A FREEMASON?

Freemasonry welcomes men of every country, religion, race, age, income, education, and opinion. However, to join Freemasonry, one must meet the following qualifications:

Be a male at least 18 years of age (the minimum age varies in some jurisdictions, sometimes up to 21)
Believe in the existence of a Supreme Being, although Freemasonry is not concerned with theological distinctions or particular religious beliefs
Be of good moral character
Be motivated to join for reasons unrelated to personal gain or profit
Your decision to apply is based on your own “free will and accord”
Be prompted by a favorable opinion of Freemasonry
Be desirous of earning knowledge and willing to conform to the ancient usages and customs of the fraternity. [beafreemason.org]

@MsKathleen Thanks for the knowledge, I'll keep it in mind if I ever want to join the ancient conspiracy! (joke!)

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I don't know, because the only time I've been to one of these places (Moose) is to attend a wedding reception or retirement party. I know they have that type of reputation in my area, though.

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