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Hating hate is still hate...

NotConvinced 7 Apr 22
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Hate is a strong emotion and requires work to maintain.

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Hate is just disappointed love. You can't hate what you are indifferent to. The true opposite of love is indifference, not hatred.

Love / hate requires an object, and by strict definition, not just any object, but a sentient being with admired character and behavior traits that you love or want to possess or have access to in some way. So I suggest it's not possible to hate a concept (other than metaphorically). You can dislike it, but not really hate it. In fact to my recollection until this moment I've never even heard anyone posit that "hatred of hate" is somehow even an issue. Is it really? I don't know. I kind of doubt it.

Some feelings are "negative" (unpleasant) but this doesn't constitute "negativity" or a bad attitude necessarily. When I have grieved the passing of a loved one for example, that is unpleasant but also perfectly natural and trust me, the last thing you want to hear in that situation is someone claiming you are "being negative". We should not confuse unpleasant feelings with dysfunctional or useless feelings. We should not automatically and reflexively push away or avoid negative feelings in ourselves or others. Feelings (pleasant and otherwise) are just information (often with high signal-to-noise ratio, but information nonetheless).

So. While I also (probably for diffferent reasons) disagree with the typical fundamentalist "hate the sin, love the sinner" ethos, I do not regard a strong distaste for hateful, otherizing or other bad behavior to be inherently problematic, either. Otherwise how would we be motivated to change for ourselves and others. How would we sanction agreed societal harms. How would we avoid enabling hurtful behaviors?

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I can honestly say l hate Trump, Putin, Cheney, and brussel sprouts. That's the short list, and l have absolutely no problem with it. Oops! I forgot Kellyanne Conway.

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I don't believe anyone who tells me they do not hate something.
Hate is a natural human emotion. I don't believe in denying emotions.
What's important is how they're expressed.
There is no positive without negative. Balance must be maintained.

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I'm okay with hating hate. I certainly wouldn't want to love hate or even tolerate hate.

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There has to be some hate:

For mankind to ascend to its higher form there must always be some sense of danger, inequality and self-love. Without the aforementioned danger and striving for life, we can never ascend and will only be fit to belong to the 'herd'

We need danger, we need to strive for life!

Your assertions may well be true, but they do not require the existence of hate.

just to clarify when i said ascend to a higher form- im not talking about some religious bull. I am speaking of man fully in control of his OWN power and mastery.

Bering an Existentialist I am firmly of the thought that mankind is only at its its best (should i say a person) a person is only at their best when they are faced with danger, hate, inequality.

We are NOTHING but the sum of our actions.

The Genealogy of Morals .. even predicted the coming of the 'Snowflake mentality'

Herd morality is a development of the original slave morality which inherits most of its
content, including a reinterpretation of various traits: impotence becomes goodness of
heart, craven fear becomes humility, submission becomes ‘obedience’, cowardice and
being forced to wait become patience, the inability to take revenge becomes forgiveness,
the desire for revenge becomes a desire for justice, a hatred of one’s enemy becomes a
hatred of injustice (Genealogy of Morals I §14). Happiness is opposed to suffering; pity v.
indifference to suffering; peacefulness v. danger; altruism v. self-love; equality v.
inequality; communal utility v. endangering such utility; ridding oneself of instincts v.
enjoyment of instinctual satisfaction; well-being of the soul v. well-being of the body.
This morality values what has no intrinsic value, and very often endangers what is of
much greater value, viz. human greatness. Greatness requires suffering, danger, self-love,
inequality, it goes against what is in the interests of people in general and is an expression
of instinctual energy.

‘Well-being’ in herd morality limits human beings, promoting
people who are modest, submissive and conforming. And so it opposes the development
of higher people, it slanders their will to power and labels them evil.

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I suppose another way to put it is “It hurts me deeply to see all of this hate in the world.”

that is your choice-you can let it hate hurt you or turn it into something to help achieve full power and mastery of yourself🙂

@Gilgamesh155326 Yeah. Spent a lot of years doing that until it took a toll on my body.

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