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Mankind is so addicted to progress that our greatest challenge in the future will be to survive progress. But the odds are against us, because like most drugs, progress produces a lot of pleasure and happiness for some time - before it kills.

Thibaud70 7 May 19
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Spot on correct. The tangible aspect of progress is technology and we now measure progress by it. What we can do. Humans now need to learn what we should not do. This will bring balance back to Yin-Yang (which is the best medicine). Sadly there is no manner to know this limitation until we experience it but the only known treatment is abstinence.

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Progress isn't the true problem. Its human greed, selfishness, and hatred that turns that progress into a weapon to be used against others.

What you mention is as old as humanity, but true (and destructive) progress is a recent phenomenon. It's a result of capitalism plus science/technology plus liberalism.

But "destructive" capitalism is caused by greedy people who are perfectly fine with taking advantage of the poor and the working class in order to make themselves wealthy. That certainly isn't anything new though progress has improved the quality of life for many people and raising us from serfs with barely any rights at all.

Science/technology has lengthened people's lifespans, saved countless lives, improved the quality of living for most people in the world, eliminated diseases, and made life easier.

I'm still unclear on what "liberalism" means to you but liberals (progressives) in the U.S. have been the ones who pushed for more social equality and the rights of minorities, pushed for worker rights and ended child labor, helped give workers paid holidays/vacation and sick leave, and a long list of other social and legal improvements.

Conservatism is what's harming the U.S. right now with their love of guns, hatred of black, brown, gay and trans people, and forcing their religion into our government.

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And the Amish called . Want to know if u are available to be their leader . Congrats ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฆ‡๐Ÿฆ‡๐Ÿฆ‡๐Ÿฆ‡

Isn't it strange that a religious community has to show us how to lead a sustainable life, without depleting natural resources and destroying ecosystems ?

@Thibaud70 two different animals , Donโ€™t even try .
When u generalize โ€œ progress โ€œ, while u typing on a device , using central heat / air , flushing your toilet and not using candles to verify that turd is gone , when u are not dying from polio or small pox today , and when u donโ€™t take the boat to visit relatives outside of your continent , yeah , u lose credibility .
Progress is not the enemy , except if u are a basket case or religious as Amish , same difference .
Find ways and advocating for ways to counteract the damage of progress , yeah , thatโ€™s an issue .
The average joe is surviving and adapting . The average joe has to use paper to wipe his behind , heat his home , drive his kid to work , and pay his bills online . Get it ? Telling me that the average joe is greedy and selfish , itโ€™s a no from me.

@Thibaud70 Sustainable ???
If your goal is to die young and/ or cultivate disease and infections , and produce children who have no chance to face / adapt / survive out of their community , if u are ok w pedophilia and treating women like garbage , thatโ€™s definitely sustainable way of living
Bro , i had plenty of Amish as patients . U have no idea what u talking about and if their lives werenโ€™t so sad , I might had laugh at u . This is not worth my typing , I got your number , say less .

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