you see what is in your mind not what is in others. This you will come to realize in another life some day but it won't be in that one.

@Drank_Spear Is it not true. That you believe that there are great benefits to having a spiritual life and understanding ?

@Fernapple for myself there is. For others what is of benefit is to live their life with as much love, passion and understanding as possible.

@Drank_Spear I can well agree, that it is best to live your life with as much love, passion, and understanding as possible. But I did not ask you about love, passion and understanding, I asked you about a spiritual life. However since you raised them that is good, I can go with that, for I was going to get to them anyway. Wonderful.

So how do you know that your life contains as much love, passion and understanding as possible ?

(Sorry if I take time out now, I will reply to your answer, but have to go out first. )

@Fernapple that is for the one, not the other. it is not for another to say, it is for the individual to know. How do they know? Well that's a complex process as you are aware. Simply put it's about self and understanding self. It's not external.

@Drank_Spear And supposing that I told you that the maximum of love, passion, and understanding can only be achieved by those who have abandoned spirituality.

@Fernapple doesn't surprise me at all. When one doesn't understand something there's really nothing to abandon.

@Drank_Spear How do you know that those who have abandoned it did not understand it ?

@Fernapple perhaps there was nothing there for them. That's their thing. It's not to be other people's thing.

@Drank_Spear So they have other things ?

@Drank_Spear Hello, you still here ?

@Fernapple I don't know what others have nor does it matter to me. It changes nothing for me. My point is whatever is for an individual is what it is. It isn't for another.

Now I enjoy expressing myself. Do I expect others to follow? No, I just enjoy being me.

@Drank_Spear So you don't really know if they understood it or not ?

@Fernapple I find your questions boring. Who cares what anyone understands. People either understand something or they don't. Most think they do and don't. This is obvious.

@Drank_Spear Sorry if I am boring, but I only really wanted an answer to the question I asked five questions ago. If the tap dance is boring, sorry but a direct answer would have ended it, I am only here to learn.

@Fernapple and you received an answer. It simply wasn't what you wanted to hear.

@Drank_Spear No, I did not get a yes or a no, to a question which could only have two answers. But that is OK I now have what I need.

@Fernapple hahaha....stuck in duality

@Drank_Spear No, I well understand a grey scale, indeed it is my main go to. Just asking for a yes or no in this case, but if you can't manage to commit to answers then that is fine, that is what tells me all I need to know.

@Fernapple you say you understand duality but insist upon it.