Say you find someone who seems amazing in your eyes, but they turn out to be religious; Do you move on or try to work it out?
If you stay and work it out, how do you go about it?
If you move on, why?
I would ask a lot of questions to find out just how committed they are to their religious beliefs, and if they are willing to change their mind as I did. If they cling to their beliefs with no willingness to be critical about them, I would not be able to pursue a romantic relationship with them. This actually happened to me recently.
I might try to make it work but it all depends on how religious. It doesn't take much for a religious man to get on my last nerve. If he keeps his religion to himself, fine but if he tries to push it on me I'll be pushing him on out.
I've dated this woman for a while. She wasn't super religious but she did go to church on Sundays once or twice a month. She was clear on the fact that I was not religious and we never had an argument regarding this topic.
I believe relationships require compromise and support from both sides. So some Sundays while she went to church, I would go ride my bike on some trails (impossible to do this together)
But once in a while, I would go to church with her, and sat (or stood) respectfully thru mass. She knew I was doing this for her, to show respect for her beliefs and to be able to share something that was important to her.
On the same token, she would give me space to do things I was into but she wasn't, and once in a while, she would make an effort to participate in some of these, like taking a bike ride or going to a rock concert with me.
I think the bottom line is, that if both people respect each other and their beliefs, there is no reason the relationship should fall apart because of this. Now if one of the parties insists in trying to change the other's mind, well the problem is not religion, the problem is that person's lack of consideration and respect for who they are dating...and who wants to date someone like that anyway?
I don't think I could do it. Their whole way of looking at the world would be so alien to me and I imagine my ideology would be equally baffling to them. They can take things on faith and I never could. I want facts, I want verifiable proof. I tend to think logically about decisions and I would fear that they wouldn't.
I re-read what I wrote above and it seems so absolutist if you know what I mean. My atheism is central to my life, my being and who I am. I can't imagine having to tamp that down or try to understand a belief system that is based on nonsense. I am currently on the board of our local atheist group and supporting atheism is a huge part of my life right now. I am fully committed to the "cause" and to being the best humanist atheist I can be. I work to put a good face on atheism so that people will see us not as the devil incarnate but as reasonable human beings who care about all people and working to help those in our local community who need help.
I think I may be more anti-theist than I had previously thought. I do believe religion is harmful to individuals and to society. I don't hate believers but I see them as trying to imposing their religious ideology on our government and our laws and I find that intolerable. Our founding fathers understood this very, very well. We are all free to believe what we want to but if we allow one religion to impose their will on our government and our laws, then we open the door to any and all religions requesting the same privilege and that would lead to utter chaos.
I think if I fell in love with a believer at this point in my life, I would have to let them go BECAUSE I love them. I fear that I would be forced to be untrue to myself and possibly cruel, despite my best intentions, in my frustration with such a wide difference in ideology. I wouldn't want to hurt them but I fear that I would not be able to contain my frustration because there would be that whole area in our lives that we could not discuss without difficulty.
I know that sounds very harsh and I'm really wrestling with that right now as I write this. I don't hate believers but I really don't think I could fall in love with one. Does that make me a "bad" person??
I guess it depends on just HOW religious they are. How open they are toward discussion. Personally, every religious person loses a bit of credibility with me because of what I see as a loose grasp on reality. Pat Robertson talking makes my ears bleed...how can you really believe all of that?
If you love him, you love him. If you get to the point of marriage, then consider this. Marriage is a commitment, and that means hard work. Differing positions on politics or religion can add to the work. If you have kids, kick that work up tenfold because each parent will want to influence their kids to their beliefs. How ok will you be raising a son or daughter as a theist? If you think you can handle it and he's worth it then amen to you sister you have some hard days ahead of you, but he may be worth it.
This is a question about what would you do, if you had this problem. Lol
I had that problem, that's why I give this stern warning. I married a theist. I lived with her for 14 years, and we dealt with all the issues of being married to one another. I know it's going to be a challenge., because if you're not on the same page on this topic with your fundamental beliefs of reality, then you find that also excludes so many other relatable issues which leads to incompatibility. It's a great question, and I took the opportunity to share my opinion and experience with it. Sorry if I missed the mark on the question.
Are they religious even to want to take the kids to church or teach them about god? If so that is too religious because I don’t want to raise kids in religion.
Do they go to church more than once or twice a year? Or stop dinner to pray first? Or appeal to god in trying to convince me of something? If so they are too religious because I don’t want religion interfering with my day to day life.
I have dated religious people who are not active and that has been fine.
After having had a long term relationship with a devoutly religious person, I would not in future ever consider repeating the mistake.
Imagine this: You meet someone who seems like a good person, the sex is good, and you are really into each other, and both of you like the same activities. You are cuddling and the news comes on. How would an atheist reconcile having a relationship with someone who you cannot respect because of their intellect and opinions? What if that person is anti LGBT, anti abortion, thinks churches shouldn't pay taxes, thinks religion does mostly good, thinks Orange Nazi Trump is doing a great job, and/or that stories on TV about ghosts and big foot are real? What if that person keeps telling you that they are praying for you so that you can be in heaven together? What if that person wants to hang crosses on the walls? etc etc
i have encountered this recently and actually don't know what to do. So far as long as there is no talking about religion or trying to get me to believe i am cool. Actually i don't mind discussing religion. He knows my catholic background. But so far we don't even bring it up. I know he reads the bible every day. If he feels it is good for him and helps him be better (he is no angel) then who am i to judge him. Good question by the way.
Try and work it out, if i thought they were amazing in the first place most likely their religious beliefs didn't interfere with whatever it was that made me see them amazing. So focus on whatever they did that made me think theyre amazing instead of their religious beliefs.
move on. their religion is a big deal to them i'm sure and unimportant to you and they will eventually want you to convert or you will always feel like you are walking on eggshells
I say see where things go. To just drop someone because of their belief system seems a bit harsh. This person would also have to accept my beliefs without judgements. But finding someone open-minded enough to live with such differences is the hard part.
are they spiritual or religious? To me there is a difference. I've stopped budding romances with religious people, while continuing them with spiritual people. Depends on their level of fanaticism.
Everyone has their deal breakers when it comes to relationships. Depending on each person, how will it effect their feelings, plans, lifestyle, etc. That is the deciding factor if it's worth bending yours or their beliefs for the sake of the relationship.. how strong is the commitment. Just from past experience, I won't let myself feel anything for another person if they are religious.. thats where I draw the line.
I've been in a relationship with a religious woman where it wasn't a problem, we felt no need to convert each other and it was hardly talked about. More recently I started seeing someone that was amazing in my eyes and seemed very well suited but she is very religious, I wanted to try and work it out but she felt that we had no future if we couldn't share the same beliefs.
I've had more problems with partners' superstitions leading to huge dramas like being convinced I was going to leave and live overseas because of a psychic reading, or being accused of having an affair because of a dream. While watching a sunset together I talked about the science of why it was so amazing while my partner was disappointed that I didn't see it as a supernatural sign that the universe was blessing our relationship. It's not a good sign if you're looking at the same thing and each seeing something different!
I think it is better if you have a similar way of looking at life but sometimes that can be hard to find.
My husband is religious, I'm not. We've been married nearly ten years. It's only been a problem a handful of times over the years.
I don't know if you guys have children together but if you do How do you handle the religion being taught to them by your husband or at least the part of religion that's taught to them that they are supposed to love God more than you , and you are supposed to love God more than them ,No disrespect or rudeness intended ,just curious ?
I'd stay and work on the relationship. Starting with finding out what she believes and why? Then, based on that, asking several questions, and explaining my point of view.
Hopefully, one of us would convince the other.
More likely, we'd agree to disagree, and hopefully stay together regardless.