I wish to see if this is a religious notion , or a cultural one. I am a feminist and humanist, and think women should take the lead more. when asking for a date, or while on a date. what do you think ladies? or guys. both inputs should be interesting..
I understand your point and certainly appreciate what you're saying. But as an atheist, humanist and woman, my choice to be more dominant or submissive is based on who I am rather than on what anyone/anything else says I should be. Taking the lead doesn't automatically make you strong. Sometimes it just means you enjoy the pursuit. Wanting someone else to take the lead doesn't necessarily make you weak. Sometimes it just means you enjoy being pursued. Personally, I enjoy both! ????
Definitely it plays a part in knowing you have a choice.@MichaelSpinler
I don't think atheism plays a role in that.
Now that we don't know which gender and what they may brand as sexual harassment anymore---I would think women make the first move--my problem with this though--ugly men like me will never have a chance since--mostly they choose physical appearances than our character. That's why I have now failed to date anyone.
@MichaelSpinler nobody hits on frogs.
Ok. I hope Im not opening a can of worms here but...
I just looked at your profile. Based on your political activism alone I would have been interested in you. Added with your pics=hot. Unfortunately, your generalization of women judging men on their looks rather than their character is a big turn off.
@DelilahJones33 The fact is, I hate generalisation,but the truth is, I have lived in Portland long enough to know every fibre that makes this part of the US, now I can read their lips and know what they mean. Of course there are still some rare good humans, I just haven't been luck to find them. Other Africans in PDX may have a different perspectives of what it is really to live in US...and by extension living in a city known to be the whitest city in America. Don't be offended.
Fair Enough. I have not been black in the whitest city in America and I don't know anything about Portland. Well, I do now @0752532706
@DelilahJones33 You are welcome to explore Portland.
From cultural perspective, I think the man should take the lead. I believe, Religion has played a big role, too. None should matter this day and age, right! Wrong, still matters. I won't do it.
Maybe for other brave gals. I would still like for the guy to take the lead. I guess, I can't let go of tradition, yet.
I am older so would probably be more comfortable if the man made the first real move - but I could smile to let him know I was interested, first. I might glance in his way a few times and smile if I thought he happened to be looking.
@MichaelSpinler - I don't understand the last part of your question? Are you saying that if religion (all?) had it's way, women would still be barefoot and pregnant? Do you think women would never have stood up for themselves? Women did! It took a while and went slowly at first, but look at the changes in the last 75 years...and things are just snowballing now. Women are being treated an equals in many countries - not all, yet, but, it's coming, if the earth lasts long enough. But I am much older than you, I feel sure.
I will message someone on this site first if I am interested. Anyone can make the first move. We're adults.
I suppose it could be both cultural and/or religious. However, I think some women are simply more comfortable taking the lead than others, for a number of reasons. I think self-confidence has more to do with it than anything else. Personally, being an atheist has absolutely nothing to do with how I choose to conduct myself in those situations.
@MichaelSpinler Not necessarily. Like I said, self-confidence has more to do with it than anything else. Sure, religious mores regarding women plays a part, but the individual's level of self-confidence is probably the most influential. That's just my take on it.
I don't think being an atheist has anything to do with it!
@MichaelSpinler We might just be more awesome in general.