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Agnostic Spiritual and/or Religious People?

I'm new here so please be nice. Maybe I don't understand what "spiritual" or "religious" mean because I'm surprised that this site let's people self identify as spiritual and/or religious. If someone is spiritual and/or religious, haven't they already decided there's a God or god-like being controlling their life? If so, then how can they be agnostic?

Keela 4 Feb 10

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I'm not sure you understand what agnostic means. Everyone is agnostic. Agnosticism addresses the question of whether or not it is possible and/or important to know that a god exists. Being that no one truly possesses knowledge toward answering this question, one has no choice other than to be an agnostic. Claiming otherwise is intellectually dishonest.

@Keela

You ask us to be nice; you should be nice as well and not use the misogyny card just because you got an answer you don't like or someone questions your understanding. 😉

Misogyny? Really? I'd really like for you to explain what about my comment is misogynistic. That's quite an indictment to hurl around.

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Welcome! I see you've a lot of various responses and yes, definitions do vary.

As A Spiritual Humanist, I define "spiritual" as any of those emotions; love, hate, fear; conditions; peace, oneness, depression; or capacities; creativity, empathy and yes, psi and other unexplained phenomenon which exist outside the "scientific box" ...either they defy explanation or cannot be adequately explained in empirical terms.

I find nothing more idiotic than an "amatuer scientist" atheist "explaining" love (for instance) as a series of chemical reactions. While there is truth to this the very attempt at explaining belittles the actual emotion or condition.

Being "religious" is not a prerequisite to being "spiritual". Additionally, you seem to be confused about the meaning of agnostic: a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God. -Google Dictionary

An agnostic doesn't believe in gods, goddesses or any combination thereof but, unlike an atheist, we do accept the possibilities.

I hope you find this helpful. As you see, we are not all atheists here, with which you seem to have confused the term "agnostic".

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"Spiritual" is a very slippery term that means whatever someone using it says it means. Nothing more nor less. So when people identify as "spiritual" they are potentially talking right past what your concept of the word is.

There's even a (reasonably good) book by Andre Compte-Sponville titled "The Little Book of Atheist Spirituality". It's not REALLY about what most people think of as spirituality, it is about the pursuit of the so-called Great Virtues. The book is meant to show that virtue, integrity, ethics, and morality are not outside the provenance of unbelievers, quite the opposite. It shows a rational basis for transcending the human condition.

When someone claims to be spiritual as an unbeliever or doubter it is really saying "I'm not abandoning my empathy, compassion, ethics or pursuit of meaning and purpose just because I'm distancing myself from the place most people profess to get those things from". Or at least that's the way I generally take it.

Also a minority of atheists pursue actual religion. Typically they either are covert atheists, usually in a theologically liberal church; or they are open atheists in an atheistic religion like Unitarian-Universalism or Buddhism. The motivation is generally to get the things from religion that it's actually fairly good at providing (sometimes): community / belonging / refuge.

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Oh this group is nice even if you aren't new. You make a good point.

@Keela I definitely understand

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I am not religious, or spiritual. But I do revere the earth and am in awe of the universe. Some call that spiritual, I don't. I also say I consider the earth sacred and the universe divine, it makes me seem less like a robot.

I'm with you on that..I consider everything sentient-even the earth itself, and strangely, the Bible agrees, constantly addressing trees, mountains, even this planet as though they are sentient beings, making covenants with them, calling on them as material witnesses, etc.
Whenever I'm outside, I can feel my energy merging with the nature around me, and, yes, I am worshipful of all of it.

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Folks interpret the meaning of the word God differently. Those in in organised religions engage in worship in the hope that their God will improve their lives or the lives of others.

Then there are folks like me who use the word God as a shorthand for a beleif in there being a force beyond our competence to understand. However I don't worship "God", I don't expect it to control my life.

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Not sure. I put "spiritual" because even though I no longer believe in the Bible or the Hebrew God, I still believe Einstein, that all matter is a form of energy and that it is all connected, so of course things happen that seem supernatural..but have nothing to do with "God," unless you agree with what Jesus allegedly said..that we are all gods.

".that we are all gods"

Do you have a reference ?

@BanjoTango Psalm 82 6 "I have said, Ye are gods,"
John 10:34 - Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods"'?

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