Population - go stand in the corner. Welcome to the grumpy, curmudgeon club. Ok the question is how do we do population control? I am thinking a lot of human rights and social justice issues are a luxury that has absolutely no meaning when everyone is fighting over diminishing resources. This country has an almost stable population and many European countries actually have a negative population rate. Because of the fact that seniors are becoming a higher % of the population governments feel the need to import others in order to fill the job gap (which will disappear when robots take over). All these people need food, jobs, shelter and be a part of the "American Dream". As long as this is the standard mentality, even among many of those here things will only get worse. That is an inconvenient fact. Thanks for your input.

@JackPedigo Plague. We need a good old fashion plague to thin the herd. Please don't take that seriously.

@silverotter11 Mother nature is working on this and other ideas. Give her a call. lol

This is a common comment from people living here. I have just over an acre which would be about 8 normal city lots. I use a fraction of what one person uses in one lot.
Unfortunately, this is not the culture in most places. People would think this is for cave people. Big house, several cars, lots of stuff and on is the typical American mindset. This will be our undoing as people would rather fight than reduce their footprint even a little.

@VictoriaNotes More new information that is sadly welcome. There are so many externalities that we don't know about but need to. Thanks, but hope you don't become a member of my curmudgeon club for this negative information. lol

@VictoriaNotes Victoria, oh goody more depressing information. I would love to watch (I don't get HBO, though) but definitely not at night. I have finally managed to relax a bit and get a good nights sleep. This has to be a daytime watch. I really appreciate this and, yes, I see you are up on the attacks on our life-support system. I fully support a doubling or tripling or however high fuel prices need to be. Years ago the transitions movement started (in England) to help people build resiliency in the face of peak oil. Now that technology has again reared it's ugly side we have cheaper oil at a much higher cost. There was a 19th century philosopher (I forget his name) that said when we make something more efficient we actually cause more use of it and it's full loss. This is exactly what is going on with fracking.

@VictoriaNotes I copied the youtube site and maybe I can get it on streaming (I do get you tube and have watched some great shows on farming practices in the past). Thanks again.

@VictoriaNotes And, don't forget, it has been shown to cause earthquakes in areas that are not in earthquake zones. What in the hell is the matter with people. They will do anything to get cheaper fuel. This reminds me, we once had a Servas visitor from N. BC. He said his property taxes were going up and people were selling their homes for huge amounts because it was discovered oil was there and could be gotten to by fracking.

@VictoriaNotes [nwpb.org] I rest my case (as if I needed to).

@VictoriaNotes It's so strange that we can use the latest technology to create such things as fracking but to then listen to science when it says what horrible damage it is doing we turn a blind eye.

@VictoriaNotes Any studies on how $$$ makes us stupid and self defeating?

@VictoriaNotes I knew you knew there was a study and reason. So what one needs to do is to be aware of this before hand and watch out for it.
Watching my parents fighting over money made my brothers and I decide we would not let money or lack thereof get in the way of our lives. I always had some innate sense of handling money and the Voluntary simplicity movement helped me formalize this. I think, in the end, it's about the common idea of everything in moderation. However, I also feel there are some individuals who, for whatever reason, power and money are paramount to their identity. It's a form of hording and, yes, it becomes an addiction. Thank you.
As an aside, I had another session with my therapist. She and I often spend more time talking than therapy. We talked about relationships and she said men seem to need another person more than women. For her (she had a bad marriage) she prefers dogs (she has 2 Corgi's). I am learning so much about hands, and other things, from her.
lol On the way to therapy I go past this place. Interesting condo's.

@VictoriaNotes There'sw the answer we have been looking for cut down the testosterone for the wealthy and they will become normal.

@Marine So what do we do; sell Viagra!!!

@JackPedigo I am sure they are big users but we need something they use everyday multiple times a day. If only we could use a particular word say money it would work great.