I know you don't buy into the supernatural mumbo-jumbo anymore than I do, but I have a debate scheduled March 3rd, and it's centered around the supernatural. I'm regretting my decision to take this on because I don't even understand the first thing about how theist view this magical place. I feel like I'm going into this ill-prepared.

A lot of what I have read talks about the supernatural being above nature and since you touched on this, I was wondering if you might have a better sense of what it means.

These are a few question, and I understand if you don't have time to answer this or if your answer would be I don't have a clue either lol. But I'll ask anyway.

I don't understand what above nature would be. Is something that is natural but above nature, supernatural? And how are we determining that anything is above or below or to the right or left of nature?

Everything requires some form of energy, so assuming we accept that energy is a requirement for anything, would energy be a natural thing that could exist in a supernatural realm? And if energy is natural and E=MC2 shows us that energy can convert into mass and those two things are both natural what part of the supernatural is supernatural?

This will be pretty much my approach at the debate, asking these questions to point out the absurdity of the supernatural and it's a hazardous approach if I'm missing something

@paul1967, science, let alone scientific debate, has never been my forte, so i'm not sure how useful my take on the question whether the supernatural exists or not would be to you. i reckon your approach so far is straightforward. a look at the night sky here in our rural australia shows me the seemingly endless reaches of nature, not of supernature - what could be grander, more super...ior? there is no greater power on this planet than nature, not to me. she even has some space for the occasional energetic glimmer of a deceased body belief in the supernatural equals superstition.

what he said.

maybe he was abducted.

Is there? I agree, infinite possibilities within the parameters of the physical universe, but basically what your doing is saying since space is infinitely large (which we don't know if that's true, but we'll say it is) then all things are possible and eventually probable. I don't think that's true.

well, it's only a theory so you might be right but what would you say is at the end of space? if space is infinite then there are infinite possibilities. its weather space is infinite thats the unknown

I've heard that same description offered up before, but it's still an empty description. What indication do we have that anything exists outside the physical universe, and if you can spot anything that would be an indication of the supernatural, wouldn't the essence of that thing need to be natural? Don't get me wrong, I know you don't accept it either, I'm just adding to your objection.

@paul1967 When attempting to explain the other side's argument, words sometimes fail me. Peace.

something existing outside the physical universe - that would include my imagination... which is pretty much a thing of my nature.

you call all those "supernatural"?

Whatever one sees or hallucinates is of that person's mind and influences. We tend to see what we expect to see. Does a place have a reputation? There, you are influenced to see or hear something, and through your own filter.