Uber and Lyft are EVIL. I drove for Lyft and I can attest to the facts presented in this article. They are both fraudulent transportation operators passing themselves off as 'tech' companies (yeah, a phone app, right). I am spearheading a coop movement here in LA called 'Grab-A-Cab', my goal is to shut these monsters down. My model uses a terminal fee for income instead of a 50% commission rate (also fraudulent in they maintain it is 25%), the fee is a flat $125 week, allowing 'rideshare' drivers to make a real living. Your thoughts?
Sounds like how mini cabs operate here . Drivers are supposed to have their criminal records checked too... espcially if convicted for sex crimes or offences involving children .
You appear to understand how their system works, I have heard the drivers find it difficult to make a 'real' wage at it, so if you can have a system where all benefit I'd go for it.
@silverotter11 - They are much worse than described. Actively destroying the entire taxi cab industry with fares so low the cab companies can't compete, putting hundreds of thousands of honest hard working PROFESSIONAL cab drivers out of business. Constantly advertising for drivers to make $30 an hour (BULLSHIT) What this does in the end is put consumers in unregistered vehicles (non-TCP) with part time inexperienced drivers that rely soly on Google or Waze maps to navigate. The old days of asking a cab driver for a good restaurant or night club recommendation is almost over, and you are not nearly as safe. My system will discourage part timers (flat rate doesn't work for them) and they will be required to register their vehicle as a taxi cab (TCP). I could cite more baddies, but you get the picture. Unfortunately, investors are scared to compete with these monsters.
@RobCampbell I had/have heard of the big downside of uber regarding REAL cabbies, had not thought of the recommendation part and the safety issue is huge.
I had thought about Uber briefly, but neither of the cars I owned, though reliable, were within Uber's required parameters, and I sure as he'll wasn't about to buy a new vehicle just for that purpose. Nevertheless, they kept sending me ads and trying to convince me to do just that. Nope, sorry, I'm not that desperate for $$$.
@Condor5 Yep, that's the model they use. Buy an new car and make $30 an hour. Fact is you would probably LOSE money with a new car payment added to the mix. But they have convinced thousands of people to do just that thru constant fake statistics and advertising on Careerbuilder, Spambots, and social media. They are getting enormously wealthy on the backs of the hard working driver - they are the perfect example of capitalism run amok.
I totally agree with you. Uber doesn't give a shit about us drivers. With the model that they use, drivers are lucky to even make minimum wage. And, for a long time, they encouraged passengers not to tip. They recently changed the app so that passengers can tip, but the habit of not tipping is already programmed in their heads, so I still get very few tips.
Cab services, just like waitresses and pizza delivery, are heavily dependent upon gratuity from customers, yet they have cut that off.
Also, the prices are so low that it's hard to make ANY real money unless you wear your car COMPLETELY OUT, thereby creating an even bigger loss.
Heartless, Capitalists, Evil FRAUDS!
@Galihad_Z Exactly !!! I averaged about $40 a day in tips driving a cab. It was an important part of my income and was used mostly to keep gas in the tank. With Lyft, I averaged $40 a WEEK.
Earnings ended up right at $4 an hour.
Good luck to you!
Thanks @HippieChick58, the business plan is complete, and I am actively recruiting drivers at this time, most are receptive, but I have no money to develop the app or the dispatch system. Investor's are foolishly scared of the two 900lb gorillas.
Good luck! Sadly the big players have the money to put up a fight but I do hope you make a dent. I made $3.33 an hour working for that Uber douche Travis. Glad he's gone but it doesn't seem to have made a difference for folks still driving. I always leave a decent tip when I use Lyft, which is better but not by much.
Thanks @StableGuinness I would certainly expect a fight, they are so heavy in recruiting with lies and fake statistics that they refill the ranks of discouraged drivers with neophytes that have bought into the hype. Only a really good system can beat them, and I truly believe that I have the answer. My system also allows drivers to take cash fares so there is some good differentiation in the business model. I still use Lyft occasionally and always leave a CASH tip for them.