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Any of you fellas think people lived before agricultural revolution were happier than today’s people?

Brownape 4 Mar 6
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Considering that over half of them that made it past 3 years died from being murdered I would say not.

Happy people generally don't kill each other.

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Can't go back.Not what I'm talking about at all. I'm saying really that we need to combine food growing and healthy lifestyles.Instead of wasting time in a gym grow a row of carrots
Instead of poisoning everything garden everything.
Thete was a time when it was thought crazy to have a dwelling without 2 or 3 acres around it.People are being poisoned by processed and tainted food.We have had our markets stolen and replaced by supermarkets that won't buy our produce.Growing food is simple.Just don't try to be self sufficient more self reliant
Environmental agriculture is the one thing that solves most of our problems economic,social and environmental

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“Happiness depends more upon the internal frame of a person’s own mind, than on the externals in the world.”

? George Washington

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It woudl depend on where they lived and how plentiful food was.

In most hunter gatherer societies of today, it appears people only spend aobut 3 hours a day working , leaving a lot more tiem for leisure. If your perceived needs are few, then the amount of your work needed to meet those needs is less.

I think in many ways peopel were much happier with much fewer complications to their lves.

I agree with you . Since agricultural revolution we have made our life complicated. As foragers we wouldn’t even know what we are gonna eat for lunch /dinner. After gathering food for the day people would rest for while and spent the whole day playing with kids and families which is what we lack today.

@Brownape I guess the trade off is a more dependable and certain future as far as food goes at least.

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There is nothing in human history that indicates that life for most people isn't a bitch. Less for some more for others. Be thankful if you are in the former.

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My undestanding is that agiculture was more feminine.People spend many hours outside
socialising and working together.Along came machines and chemicals and it became a.male domain.This is unsustainable.Socially and environmentally.Personally want the organic way back.After WW1. Bg factories making nitrates etc were making such money they sold us all the biggest con of all time with soil additives that kill mycozoa in soils.

I am a farmer and female. We women are making a comeback. My farm doesnt have chemicals all over the place. I do have compost piles from all the goat manure piling up in the barn and they in turn when out on the larger pasture in summer eat noxious weeds and improve the pasture. I am pleased to say that many more small sustainable farm operations are coming into being here in the states. People are fed up with the factory farmed overly processed foods and as a result farmers markets and coop stores are poppingup and thriving, also heirloom vegetables are growing in popularity.

@misstuffy Great to hear.Wish it was bigger here. What about occupying supermarket malls with permanent local markets.They've got everything except aesthetics..Reboot the economy

@findmegenie There is one mall that is failing in Des Moines, I remember when it was built some 40 years ago, they tore up productive farm land to do it at the time and it was the place to be for many kids in the 80's. Now it struggles and would be a perfect place. Des Moines has a thriving farmers market downtown on Saturdays and another one West of there in the old part of West Des Moines with restored architecture hosting shops and the market in the street one day a week. There is even a coop store there selling only organic foods. There are Urban farms in the cities like Chicago that turn empty lots into community gardens.

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No, but after it and before the industrial revolution seems ok.

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No? Life would’ve been equal to a wild animal.

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We certainly paid less taxes. They did a survey on the most taxed parish in medieval England in the middle ages. I think it was about 38 days to the Lord. As it happens the same parish has a Mercedes plat there now and the workers pay 3 times more tax

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I think it's unlikely. Ithink life would have been very harsh and unforgiving for the vast majority of

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They were blissfully unaware and had little impact on nature and lived in proper family groups. I think they had a full life

What's a "proper family group"?

looking at the few remaining actual humans living in the wild its like a small village where everyone knows everyone. I think its very unnatural to live side by side in the millions or even thousands.

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