Yuck.

Let them be, their life. Their faith.

same place that sends assassination squads after junkies ? eff duarte and all those alike

Well, as long as they don't die, it's fake. Just a ritual like going on vacation once a year. To me it's a show of fanaticism.

They're all fucking mad, each to their own aside, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck......it's a duck. They're round the twist - go large.

Did you say Clapp?

Yes indeed, the church got excited in their ability extend terror and fear. This is what I have learned recently, The Roman Empire/church, did NOT use the cross for crucifiztion of special people. The cross allowed the common person to die rather quickly but the X frame was just that, No support for feet, no ability to control your arms over your head and the pain was intense. I just love god stories, always so freaking violent and then portrayed as all loving god

But in the past the Catholic Church did 'support'; burning heretics alive, torturing people till they converted and armed conflict. "We (The Catholic Church) tolerate your portrail of Christ's dying on a cross but we reserve the right to not support it, unless we do it", said some RedBird.

Another example of the mental illness that passes itself off as "faith".