In these guys’ defense, a pop figure can’t help but be influenced by their audience, I think? So, sorta like what has happened here at “agnostic” .com, which is mostly gnostic atheists, right? (does humanist.com still lead here?)

A point possibly being that it’s easy to rip on pretty much anything or anyone, but there may be another side to their stories too? Prominent “atheists” are being called out for some certain singular behavior, but is that all they are doing? Would they even consider themselves primarily atheists?

seems like any good movement gets co-opted, and fascism always seems to be the default, yeh

I am not at war with anyone, and not being an atheist in the purest form (being agnostic), have never paid attention to much of what ANY atheists have to say to/about each other or the beliefs of others. What others believe as far as gods are concerned is none of my business. I will work to keep religion out of government and MY business. IMO, the “us against them” mentality is the biggest thing wrong with the world, be it religion, government, gender, sexuality, or anything else.

When thinking of atheist fascists, Ayn Rand always first comes to mind. I think every Conservative Atheist on this site blocked me. Considering the level of ad hominem attacks and profanity I have directed towards them, it's understandable.