It would ironic if a steel man approach gently massaged that answer.

@waitingforgodo Bear in mind that I am oxygen following surgery so my mind is not getting the amount of oxygen that it should and indeed be gentle with me.

Also, I am unable to recommend kidney stones or ureteral stents.

@LovinLarge I promise the answer will not leave you breathless.

@waitingforgodo I would like to know the answer and how you arrived at it. I very much like this type of problem but my best days are behind me, intellectually. The men I like the most are the ones who can make me feel stupid (in a good way) and there still aren't many of them.