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Not really surprised to hear this, but I'm not really interested in listening to podcasts. I've already heard plenty of personal stories of people I actually know offline and trust that have told me of relatives or relatives of friends that have drank the Kool-Aid of Trump and conspiracy groups and then gone off the deep end, including dying of Covid, tho they were relatively healthy before, because they refused to get vaxed or practice any self protection from Covid.

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