I could have quoted the BBC, CNN or ABC. They all carry the same information.
Try getting with the argument not the messenger.

@FrayedBear

@Flyingsaucesir
You are consistantly & predictably #stupid.

[bbc.com]
[nytimes.com]
[aljazeera.com]
[reuters.com]
[usnews.com]

And the fallout won't be in the UK or Russia, Ukrainians will live with that legacy for years to come. Hope they don't use it, for their own benefit. Very shortsighted thinking if they do.
NB Has Russia actually declared war on Ukraine? I have no problem calling it a war but my understanding is Russia views it as a "police action". They may well have changed that definition.

@puff Their name "Limited military operation" is pure spin and propaganda. Calling it a war, in Russia, is an imprisonable offence.

@Petter No doubt, and probably against UN regulations.
From a military perspective, Russia wants a secure Black Sea, which is why the US want Ukraine. So NATO naval assets may be based there. If Russia secures those areas, I see them withdrawing from the rest of the country. To me, that is where this is heading, where it was always heading. To be blunt, it's just a matter of how many bodies are going to pile up before it happens.
I miss the 70's, where when shit like this happened an immediate arms embargo was imposed so as not to prolong conflict and suffering. It is a true tragedy what is going on in Ukraine.

@Petter just as most US "peace keeping" missions are wars and invasions. For an intelligent man your attitude frequently astounds me Petter but it is no different from the attitude of the poor saps believing that there is a god.

@Petter You got me thinking. The whole Black Sea should be demilitarised. Put this in negotiations and it would piss off both Russia and NATO/ US. Therefore, sounds like a good idea

@Petter, @puff it depends on how far the dust blows. Don't forget that our bulldust ends up in New Zealand 4155klms away but from Central Australia you can add another 1 or 2 thousand klms! London to Kiev is only 2140 klms [timeanddate.com]
And just remember that the Chernobyl radioactivity made a lot of people bald in the UK - [theguardian.com]
And [express.co.uk]

@FrayedBear depleted uranium fallout does not seem to have spread to neigbouring countries in Iraq. Perhaps it is not reported.

@puff You're quibbling. (That would get you expelled from Annapolis or West Point.)

@puff "A well presented case for the outright banning of depleted uranium in all military applications ..."

@FrayedBear Problem is, shit like this gets banned through treaties, but treaties are not what they used to be. White Phos and unmarked/ mapped land mines were also banned but seem to be in regular use.

@puff [hir.harvard.edu]

[unep.org]

But at least it is now excluded as being a cause of Gulf War Illness: depleted uranium ruled out as a cause of mystery condition – new study
[theconversation.com]

@FrayedBear fire pits?

@puff "The whole Black Sea should be demilitarised" - and to say nothing of Turkey, Romania, Georgia & Bulgaria!
[mappr.co]

@FrayedBear Turkey may have issues, don't think the other countries would. Turkey and Russia border other seas.

@puff are the English tanks manned by Ukrainians or English troops?

@FrayedBear Like the Russian "peace keeping" mission in Syria, I presume, proping up a despotic ruler. How about the Russian backed Wagner group attacks in West Africa?

@Petter lol, if I remember rightly the Russians did more to stop the stolen oil being shipped in trucks by terrorist groups than the Americans who were probably filling the tankers for them.

@FrayedBear That was simply Russia bombing and slaughtering the Yazidi and the Kurds.
They also flattened cities like Alepo, killing thousands of civillians. Alepo was like a rehearsal for the wanton, indiscriminate destruction of Marioupol and the kidnapping of the city's children for adoption and brainwashing in Russia.

@Petter Is that the propaganda that you're still living on in Spain?

Why do you consider Russian "brainwashing" more heinous than USA led indoctrination?
Do you have conclusive proof that children are being kidnapped & sent for safekeeping in Russia & not to American, Spanish, Danish, Australian, Thai or Saudi pedophile's harems. Or worse to Brazil for clean blood to be used to detoxify the likes of drug addicted pop stars, royalty & wealthy aging people wanting longevity at any cost?

@FrayedBear I really do not know what you are on, but it is certainly a powerful hallucinogen.

@Petter no hallucinogen. Just suggesting that you if children are going missing in Ukraine you eliminate all possible other reasons before you claim Russian responsibility.

@Petter By the way what is your opinion of the brainwashing of many people including children by the most heinous employers of brainwashing - the Catholic Church, the Presbyterians, the Muslims & the proselytising evangelists particulary those from America?
But perhaps you consider that to be educating not brainwashing?

I see no difference between intentional & accidental collateral damage. The fact that the ban on the use of the material has not been enacted & enforced merely identifies the fucked up mentality of all condoning the use of the material.
IMO it is no different to believing in a god.

It reminds me of the other great deception - fluoride, a by product of the alumina industry. It is according tothe US EPA a toxic product that cannot be dumped in landfill. It is however permitted to be added to toothpaste which is then absorbed into the body or flushed with the wastewater down the drain.

See also "A well presented case for the outright banning of depleted uranium in all military applications ..."

The question is "how will Russia retaliate if depleted urananium is used against its troops or the Donbass civilians?"
I would imagine that Russia has huge stockpiles of depleted uranium that could be quickly, if not already, made into shells or used in cruise missiles against Zelensky's parliament, home or palace.

As a consequence of rereading my post & the Pravda article Len I cannot find either stating or impugning what you suggest that "the term Depleted uranium as a synonym for "Dirty Bomb" ". Therefore how can it be " a little rich and a cause of deliberate moral panic "? It is clearly stated by Petr Ernilin that "The use of depleted uranium shells has nothing to do with nuclear weapons".