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LINK Asked about pardoning Trump as president, DeSantis says he would be 'aggressive' -- ABC News

The Florida governor has been critical of federal law enforcement.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis was asked on Thursday about potentially using his pardon power if elected president to offer clemency to Jan. 6 defendants or even Donald Trump -- and while he didn't answer directly, he suggested he would consider it.

DeSantis made his comments while appearing on the "The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show" amid an early media blitz one day after launching a bid for the Republican presidential nomination in 2024.

"A big part of being president is pardon powers. Do you think the Jan. 6 defendants deserve to have their cases examined by a Republican president? And if Trump, let's say, gets charged with federal offenses and you are the president of the United States, would you look at potentially pardoning Trump himself based on the evidence that might emerge of those charges?" Travis asked DeSantis.

The governor did not mention either Trump or any specific Jan. 6 cases by name but suggested he was open to the idea.

"We will be aggressive [in] issuing pardons," he said, arguing that the Department of Justice and FBI had become "weaponized" to pursue political rather than law enforcement goals.

Late last year, Attorney General Merrick Garland named an independent prosecutor to oversee the DOJ investigations of Trump, saying then that it "underscores the department's commitment to both independence and accountability in particularly sensitive matters."

DeSantis' remarks about pardons come on the same day a federal judge handed down thelongest sentence to date for a Jan. 6 crime.

Stewart Rhodes, the founder of the far-right Oath Keepers, was sentenced to 18 years in prison after being convicted of seditious conspiracy and other charges. Rhodes calls himself a "political prisoner."

"You, sir, present an ongoing threat and peril to this country," the judge told Rhodes, also citing the stockpile of weapons that the Oath Keepers had amassed outside the nation's capital ahead of the certification of Joe Biden's presidential win two years ago.

The Department of Justice reports that more than 1,000 people have been arrested in connection with the government's Jan. 6 investigation.

More than 300 people have been charged with assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers or employees that day, the DOJ has said, and more than 100 defendants have been accused of using deadly weapons.

About 140 police were attacked on Jan. 6, according to DOJ.

On Travis and Sexton's radio show, DeSantis said that "what I'm going to do is -- I'm going to do on day one -- I will have folks that will get together and look at all these cases, who are people, who are victims of weaponization or political targeting."

The governor didn't say whether he felt a pardon would be appropriate for the former president, whose conduct related to the attack on the Capitol is being investigated by special counsel Jack Smith.

But DeSantis said that there was the possibility that those charged in Jan. 6 were being mistreated.

"If there are three other people who did the same thing, but just in a context like [Black Lives Matter protests] and they don't get prosecuted at all, that is uneven application of justice, and so we're going to find ways where that did not happen and then we will use the pardon power," he said, later noting "it will be done on a case-by-case basis."

"And that could be from a grandma who got arrested and prosecuted to all the way up to, potentially, Trump himself," Travis said.

"I would say any example of disfavored treatment based on politics or weaponization would be included in that review, no matter how small or how big," DeSantis said.

His campaign did not respond to a request for clarification on his pardon comments.

The Florida governor, who has commanded state politics with a Republican supermajority in Tallahassee, has indicated in interviews that he would wield more executive muscle as president than is typical, touting the "levers" of the office that can enact day-one changes -- including by bypassing norms of independent law enforcement agencies.

Asked about the DOJ and FBI by WTN 99.7's Steve Murphy, DeSantis said, "Democrat but mostly Republican presidents have bought this idea that they're independent [agencies] and you can't be involved with them. No, they answer to the elected president. You have every right to call in the attorney general, call in the FBI director and say, 'Hey, wait a minute … Why are you doing this?'"

DeSantis declared his long anticipated candidacy on Wednesday night during a Twitter event with Elon Musk which was initially delayed by technical glitches.

As some of his primary opponents, like Trump, seized on the malfunction to criticize DeSantis, his team said the problems were due to how popular the online event was -- straining Twitter's capacity.

He enters the race as potentially the biggest challenger to Trump for the GOP nomination, early polls show.

DeSantis has sometimes jabbed at Trump's record in his campaigning so far, saying in one radio interview in Tennessee that he felt Trump was "running to the left."

On Thursday, he attended a donor event in Miami and raised $8.2 million in the 24 hours after starting his campaign, a spokesman said.

ABC News' Hannah Demissie, Will McDuffie and Will Steakin contributed to this report.

snytiger6 9 May 27
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One would expect nothing less. If any Republican is president in 2025, all the past four years of rounding up traitors and political slime bags will have been for naught. Already all the work of the Jan 6 committee has been shelved and forgotten as the Republican House climbs all over itself to find any little tidbit it can dig up on Biden and his family while ignoring the obvious illegality of the entire Trump family and their multi-million dollar deals while dad was in office. There is no shame in the Party of crooks and con artists.

Yeah. Look how long it took republicans to finally impeach Paxton in Texas, after years of law breaking and abuse of power.

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But Wait! They hate each other!!!

Defuckhead gets elected by drump cultists on the basis if this BS and then IGNORES drump......oh, gawd, now i don't know what i want.....too delicious on many levels, it is.

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Federal charges only. Georgia state charges would not be subject to presidential pardon.

Which is why GA is the better case but the level of prosecutorial experience may not be as profound. Should GA miss something that Smith would not have then 45 might evade law...again. GA also pays for it so that's nice.

@rainmanjr Exactly.

@rainmanjr Personally, I think the constitution needs to be amended to prevent abuses of presidential pardons. The president shoudl be prevented from pardoning any crimes committed while serving in the executive branch. So basically the president, vice president and all the cabinet members should not be eligible for pardons for crimes they committing while serving in the executive branch. Either that or such pardons should require a two thirds approval vote by the congress and senate. However, as the president gives up some power I think a little horse trading is in order. So, with the limits of presidential pardons, the Senate should not be able to delay considering judicial appointments for more than two weeks, and once a judicial nominee is taken up for consideration, an up or down vote shoudl be required in order for the nominee to be rejected.

The Judicial nominee bit has to do with republicans putting off confirming nominees in the last two years of both the Clinton and Obama administrations, so they could stack the courts with conservative judges if/when a republican president got in office.

@snytiger6 Go get that petition started, I'll sign it, and we can look forward to this rule somewhere around the time The Atlantic swallows FL.

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