I listened to a female friend talk about her rape fantasy, once, at a party. My girlfriend at the time sat frozen beside me - she had been raped, and not told these other people, her friends.

Many right wingers who love Arn Rand, will on the one hand criticize Bernie Sanders, but won't acknowledge that in "The Fountainhead" the lead female character gets raped by the lead male character and then falls in love with him.

I myself, have alwasy been critical of that book for that premise. I always thought it was unrealistic, but in further readings have foudn that yes, some women want to be "taken" in a way where they have no co9ntrol. I have since encountered some men with similar fantasies, so it isn't just women.

I now view it as mostly extreme role playing, although I suspect in many cases the agresser, does not always have consent for what they do, which makes it actual rape.

I con't think such behavior is easy to categorize or define. In my opinion, if a person does nto get consent beforehand, it should always be considered rape.

Even in BDSM, which I am NOT into, they have safe words. There is no safe word when you are being raped. So no, this is about something someone should see the difference in.

it is a lot of woman's fantasies at least just the thought of it or role play.

I missed Bernie’s comment, dosen’t sound a lot like him... years ago I read about those fantasies, and you’re right it’s not something we talk much about. The thought that a woman would want to be tied up, held down doesn’t sit well with me, not sayin it’s “weird weird”... I just find it hard to believe it’s common... and why would you talk about it.
Hey, maybe it’s me, I’ve never been asked for, requested, experienced “rough sex”... not judging, but what am I missing ?

He didn't say it, Sanders wrote an essay (in his thirties, btw) about a woman enjoying being gang raped. Rape and consensual sex are totally different things. Your argument is akin to equating consensual bdsm impact play to spousal abuse. Consent, negotiated limits and kink within defined boundaries bear absolutely no resemblance to rape. If you can't see the difference between a woman willingly exploring sexual boundaries with a trusted partner versus being forced to commit personally loathsome acts, then please don't date.

There is a campaign against sex right now. Someone is teaching over sensitivity about the topic to women, while creating fear about it to men. This creates a divide in the population allowing for easier control.

If the them in us versus them is the opposite sex them its not the aristocracy.

You know, maybe

bdsm is not about power, believe it or not. It's about sex. You can play all the games you want, including using ropes or handcuffs. It's still ultimately about sex. Both partners are equal and together in the enjoyment of it. You can have rape fantasies with a partner. But the two are still just playing together as respected equals in acting out a fantasy. Genuine rape is altogether different. It is one person overpowering and humiliating the other person. It's about really trying to inflict trauma and degredation upon the other. One is creative play and the other is a moral travesty. When you look at it like this it's easy to tell the difference. I can tell you the woman can tell the difference.

Women are enculturated to abdicate responsibility for our sexuality and desires. To joyfully embrace my sexual nature gets me labeled as a "Slut", which I am happy to claim. ????

Maybe they read or saw the movie "50 Shades of Grey" lol.

I think it is more about appropriate conversation for your position. If you are in a position to command other people, it probably isn't okay to talk about rape fantasies in almost any context, unless you are the manager of a porn shop or porn shop related. It may be you trying to make a point, or whatever, but it opens doors to people who are less discerning feeling empowered to take inappropriate steps. Hence a 'uncomfortable workspace'. Which is why I am an artist/musician. I like to live in that 'uncomfortable workspace'.

I've read what Bernie Sanders wrote, but there was a broader context that people ignore, missing a larger social point he was making. I don't recall the specifics without looking it up, but I find this to be one of those deliberate misrepresentations by political opponents who don't care about intent and want only to discredit.