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This came up on my fb feed. Obviously, this is not my area of expertise, but some of you probably have some very thoughtful insight on the matter.

UrsiMajor 8 Feb 8
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Yes every gangster like Nixon, Ford, ReaGUN, Bush Crime Families BILLARY and Bidens Crime Families are stealing from USA and profitting by deadly deals to Angola to Brunei to China et al to Zaire & Zambia

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True they will try

bobwjr Level 10 Feb 8, 2022
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People forget that most of the colonization was done by corporations, for the benefit of the crowns. Hudson Bay Co, East India Company and others would move in first, then the governments would move in to "protect" the investment. The governments were major shareholders. Queen Elizabeth formed the first corporation after seeing the mistakes that Spain made. there is a whole history lesson that is glossed over.

glennlab Level 10 Feb 8, 2022

Yes, that's an extremely important point!

@Krish55 We learned well, United Fruit Company, Dole and Exxon were US exports to the world.

@glennlab Not Dole! Nooooo! My childhood fruit company! I guess we should have seen it coming with all of the slavery going on in the Virgin Islands centuries ago.

@UrsiMajor United fruit (bananas) became Chiquitta, Dole (pineapples) was partly responsible for the annexation of Hawaii.

@glennlab I think the moral of the story is that the US is only interested in property that provides some sort of advantage such as resources or geographic positioning?

We used to think the Afghan war was about oil. Now veterans who fought there are telling us it was more about the opioids. I thought some of these wars were about fear of different political systems gaining popularity. I don't know what's going on anymore.

@UrsiMajor We are simply following the pattern. We were established by corporations, revolted against a corporate takeover of the tea market ( The British East India Company was going to offer lower prices even after the new added tax, but they would have put most if not all of the small locally owned tea companies out of business.) And have continued to provide "assistance" in corporate expansion into other markets.

We are by no means alone in our exploitation of resources. Almost every country has done similar things. First you send trade delegation, then you establish a foothold and entice the locals to work for you at wages better than what they are used to, but still far less than what it is worth, then you begin a military presence, next you influence the government and if it doesn't agree with you, you help in its overthrow.

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  1. And there is a heavy dose of White, Western racism in the one-sided criticism of China. Chinese abuses in Africa are minuscule compared to those of the West since independence. China is trying to create an alternative international trade system with competes with Western dominance of the Global South. Hence the propaganda onslaught against China. [aljazeera.com]
Krish55 Level 8 Feb 8, 2022

Thanks, I didn't even know China was involved with Africa. A lot to take in. Thanks for sharing. I will have your articles to start with when conservatives start saying scary things about this particular situation.

@UrsiMajor Glad you have an open mind!

@Krish55 ok, your source is familiar and pretty solid if memory is correct. I should probably go there and see what is happening in the rest of the world once in awhile.

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  1. The colonizers never left. That is what Western intervention has been about - since before he made that statement:
Krish55 Level 8 Feb 8, 2022
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Heavy on the chinese influence

Currently, yes. It was the British for a long time, then the US. The Dutch aren't immune either, especially in Nigeria. No large money/resources wanting nation is immune from doing so.

Yup, the new colonizers.

With USA dollars

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Yes indeed

Canndue Level 8 Feb 8, 2022
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