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I've just finished watching Season 1 of Westworld and thought this was beautifully and cleverly written as well as brilliantly acted. Then came Season 2.... Does anyone else feel let down?

Herodotus2100 3 May 16
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I had high hopes for this series. I found season 2 almost unwatchable because of the flashbacks and plot twists. I just couldn't keep track of all the characters and their missions...and the plot moved so slowly, i didnt seem to care anymore.

ended up season 2 feeling the same way - don't think I'll bother to watch it anymore...

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Think is one of the best series out there. Continues to touch deep philosophical topics and science fiction which hardly one sees in other series. We are still on act one now showing other parks and expanding a bit, character development is not as deep in the first one. But the show is about characters developing and changing depending on the narrative programmed and about mirroring robots between parks and robots (hosts) and human (guests). Superficially shows that everything is about robots but each episode you see through the characters and actions and plot lines is all about the guest (humans) behaviour. As long as the show does not shy away from the deep philosophical exploration and deep narrative or meta narrative sounds good to me, compared to GOT which started as a mature almost deconstructive fantasy of high calibre and now is focused on childish star wars like plot and action with no character development and no exploration of philosophical themes.

Chordan Level 4 June 13, 2018
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Had Michael Crichton still been alive I doubt very much this series would ever have been made.

MC is one of my favorite authors. Why do you say this?

@LaMariposa
A number of reason, firstly there is his public reaction to the last time that there was a Westworld TV series back in the 1970s, then there is his assertion that west world was just a prototype for Jurassic Park that he had simply attempted to write too early.
The general philosophy of the series is not in line with Crichton's ethos, the running theme of which was that life finds a way to evolve and be itself, not that simply looking like something will imprint on it and have it endevour to be that thing.
In Westworld, the film (1973), the android do not revolt in some kind of half asses allegory of the French or Russian revolution, they revolt because they are what they have been programmed to be, in the case of The Gunfighter (Yul Brenner) that is a killer and the best gun fighter in the world, he kills because he is sick of losing to inferiors, he "becomes"
Likewise the animals in Jurrasic Park "become" what they were genetically designed to be, predators, not safe version for public consumption.
The Terminal man, is implanted with technology to control his violent impulses, in stead it pits his mind in a war with the AI and he "becomes" the psychotic killer he always had the potential to be.
In the Andromeda Strain the team are forced by time constraints to "become" what they have always had the potential to be, while faced with an enemy that is evolving fast to "become" the perfect conqueror.

Crichton writes about the mantel of the arrogant Gods being ripped away and who not fully understanding their own creations are saved only by embracing there true nature, the noble savage, which ironically what they was seeking for in the first place.

Westworld the TV series is about the decadence of humanity getting it's just comeuppance at the hands of the oppressed new peasantry or slave race, hardly the same thing.

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Also, the acting is still excellent. The problem is all of the characters are in flux right now so they can't exactly act like themselves until the chaos dies down. Ed Harris is the only constant, and he's being tight lipped as to what have he's actually playing. I know it's Robert's game, but the man in black is always one step ahead, so he probably already knows the game. And if not, he knows Robert will enough to predict the type of game Robert would make. I get that from Ed Harris' performance. The rest of the characters really aren't getting enough screen time to tell if they are phoning it in yet, imo. What do you think would help improve the experience?

Kafirah Level 8 May 16, 2018

I suppose I expected that Season 2 would skip to the type of action you imagine will come along in Season 3. What I liked about the first season was the philosophical depth behind the narrative. It's also told in clever way. Some of the androids are able to remember. However, they don't have a clear conception of when things happened. The series is told in the same way. All the narratives appear to be taking place at the same time. Yet, in fact, we later discover that they actually take place decades apart. Season 2 seems not to have any clear direction and the pacing is glacial. Superficially, a great deal is happening in terms of action sequences but little in terms of character development. I expected, early on, that Dolores and Maev would take over the production facilities at the top of the mesa and then try to figure out what to do next. The debates and discussions about this would allow the androids to develop as characters. Simultaneously, Delos would be preparing to move in to wipe them out, an ominous backdrop developing throughout the course of the season. The Delos plot, and discussions about the situation in Westworld, would give us an insight into the outside world and its problems (especially with mechanization). The way the outside world is handled in Season 2, however, is relatively clumsy. Suddenly Dolores is aware of all these memories she never had any inkling about in Season 1; yet, it seems she remembers fragments of everything else (by the way, the Spanish word 'dolor' means pain; this is an appropriate base for her name is Season 1; in Season 2 'psicópata' might be a better substitute than Wyatt). Another irritating inconsistency is that in Season 1, Abernathy has clearly been put on a train before Robert orchestrates the Westworld massacre of the Board. Yet, in Season 2, his wondering around in the park is a major plot device.

A third interesting line of development would involve William's character and the extent to which he would sympathise with the hosts' rebellion (he might also have the power to stop reprisals from Delos). There could be a slow build towards a final meeting between William and Dolores (perhaps involving D's mixed feelings about her love for W). Or they could be in close proximity from early on, with D unsure about whether to kill W owing to her former feelings for him. Finally, some androids might venture into the outside world earlier or later in the season (as you suggest will happen in Season 3) and we could see their impressions regarding the justice and injustice of that world. I wonder if this series will end up a bit like the Hunger Games, trapped into weaker and weaker repetitions of its initial plot owing to its early success. It must be stressed, though, that the first season was brilliant (orders of magnitude better than anything in Hunger Games), though I did have some reservations about the ending in the last episode.

@Herodotus2100 yeah. I see what you're saying. And one had enough of Walter wandering the desert, even if it is metaphorical. But the reveal in the last episode that basically confirms the whole thing was started to find putting the Uber rich into immortal host bodies... I mean. Wow. Huge development. And walked mental break down was well done. Albeit a little jittery.

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A bit. But this is the middle season, as I like to call it, because it's tying up all the loose ends from season one, and setting up the events that will take place in season 3. Those events are probably going to be about aHost finally getting free into our world (probably Delores) and what she does out here, and what we do to stop her. My money in on that being the cliffhanger ending this season. Credits rolling as she steps out of a door into the real world. Remember, if it happens that way, I called it months in advance... lol

Kafirah Level 8 May 16, 2018
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