A solution to the Brexit Mess?
Until everyone realizes that there is a correct (if not ideal) way of conducting a referendum amongst thousands of people then we are not going to get out of this mess. My thinking towards a working solution mirrors what does happen now for millions of people. I am thinking of the strike process - already running fairly smoothly . Process is 1 Vote to initiate the process 2. Countless negotiations with all possibilities aired 3. Final vote - sometimes needing a re-run of 2&3. Why are you talking about Rubbishing a second referendum when you already know a method which works containing a second vote and can be applied. This process above must be discussed immediately after the vote tomorrow otherwise this will take decades.
Separate from the above is my preference for a second referendum : Choose between May's offer and remain in EU.
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.I would rather have a general election and get the Tories out before they completely destroy the country. While I agree that the referendum was extremely badly organised and dishonestly run, there is no guarantee that a second one would be run any better and there is no indication that opinions have changed very much meanwhile. If there were another referendum the propaganda would be just as dishonest and what if the result were similar, either way? A third referendum? I wouldn't object ot Norway+ myself.
CeliaVL
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Jan 15, 2019
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To have Brexit difficulties and GE topics and difficulties at the same time would be too confusing.
We should keep on having EU referenda until there is "clear water" between the two sides. Keep that in mind as you are making up everything to do with the next referendum, then if enough effort is put into each one we might make smaller the number of referenda required.
Trouble is Remainers want ONE outcome. Leavers on the other hand are split. Some voted for 350 million for the NHS others for a 'jobs first' Brexit and others because they swallowed the xenophobic wittering of UKIP. And everything in between.
My approach? Revoke A50 and call a GE.
Flettie
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Jan 15, 2019
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One outcome i.e remain is not a problem. It worked for 40 years and IS capable of being improved by us.
The simplest solution is to withdraw/revoke article 50 and leave it open for future governments to take Britain out of the EU if they put it in their manifesto that they wish to do so. A second referendum risks the vote going the same way as it did the last time, risking us having to leave with no deal before the right time for doing so. That time will come, but it is not now.
David_Cooper
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Jan 14, 2019
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Voting is not risky it is a part of democracy
Voting is always risky, as is not voting, but in this case, another referendum could go badly wrong and force us out too soon.
I don't believe the problem is with the referendum itself. More how a banking crisis led to years of austerity. This in turn was manipulated by neo liberals who managed to link our ravaged economy with membership of Europe.
This is Thatcherism on steroids
JimmyM
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Jan 14, 2019
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