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82 year old [going on 18] retired science teacher, from a teaching family. Wife and 3 children 5 grandchildren. Supporter of the British Humanist Association ( Now called Humanists UK) and local religious discussion groups including. Interfaith and mixed Christian and skeptic group. Revising fundamental (people's)science slowly. Join me?
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I need only 17 more points to make it to level 7. maybe I can do it with this posting. LOL
Mcflewster comments on Jan 13, 2019:
This is really sneaky because I am in almost exactly similar position and I did not have the wit to think of this. However I do respect the friendly co-operation of our members who got you over the line and thank the administrators who dreamed up this "competative" system of encouragement.
Political Correctness for the next group in power:
Mcflewster comments on Jan 13, 2019:
Political correctness is all about getting people to vote for you or listen to your ideas. also it helps generally if there are kinder ways of saying the same thing. However you should judge the need for PC from the point of view of a disadvantaged person and not just say. "I'm all right ,Jack this is unnecessary."
Can I please join?
Mcflewster comments on Jan 12, 2019:
Welcome to the group. Do you need any permissions? I think you are just showing respect for the UK way of thinking and I feel quite happy with that. Not that it is superior to any way of thinking -just different. We are all going through a hell of a political time at present and we need all the help and ideas that we can get.BTW a lot of people here are with you on the royalist agenda.
Why does religious belief have a strong effect on people?
Mcflewster comments on Jan 3, 2019:
They simply think they know all the answers OR know an invisible friend who does.
Hello everyone i have just joined this group.
Mcflewster comments on Dec 30, 2018:
Welcome. I am glad you enjoy conversations. I know that this is my preferred way of learning. Questioning and sharing interpretations of answers.
Too funny but true!
Mcflewster comments on Dec 27, 2018:
"In the beginning was the word" . What the HELL does that mean?
Being neither a neurologist or a philosopher, I don't write this with any authority but will make it...
Mcflewster comments on Dec 25, 2018:
Soul and spirit have more to do with the unknown side of human knowledge about the body. A 'spirit' was the unknown human-endowed creature who caused "The bump in the night".
If you are an Atheist or an Agnostic do you celebrate Christmas?
Mcflewster comments on Dec 25, 2018:
I celebrate the happiness of my family at a time when everyone else sees that that is the most important thing. Also to cheer myself up in dark winter months just as the pagans did.
My ex-husband.
Mcflewster comments on Dec 24, 2018:
It is good to know that some couples get through these terrible times and recognize each other's human needs.
Do you consider yourself a Scientist??
Mcflewster comments on Dec 15, 2018:
I consider that everyone is born with the innate abilities to be a scientist AND that we could improve all science and the uptake of science by actually calling everyone a scientists. Each person,I admit has had varying degrees of practice and confidence. Additionally everyone has had their science abilities suppressed from birth whilst we each reinvent and free our ourselves so that we practice real science. Science is not a body of knowledge, nor a group of people in white coats but a series of processes linked in a cyclical fashion. Once you have chosen one of these processes (e.g.ask a question) then the rest of the processes naturally follow on if the mind is free to practice what it was born with. Why do we always talk about the hard and intricate **knowledge **derived from science instead of giving each person the chance to follow the logic and methods of science to prove things for themselves.?
Saying goodbye to a coworker, and fellow atheist today.
Mcflewster comments on Dec 12, 2018:
If you feel that Religion has prevented you from being sad, compassionate, respectful of the dead and unable to point out the good that this man has done, then things are really bad. I am sure that this is not the case and that you have it in you to find a way to point out the real worth of people, particularly in the science and learning field. That is certainly what Humanism is about and all of us have some of that within us - it just needs recognizing.
With this morning’s news of a leadership challenge to Theresa May, what do you think the outcome ...
Mcflewster comments on Dec 12, 2018:
Vote result is immaterial as it is the hard line Brexiteers which must be ousted. Mrs May has said that she will not lead the next government , but has a tight grip on this postman's delivery leg and will not let go until she is pushed perhaps by a parliamentary vote on lack of confidence.
Hello all i just joined and just to say hi from Norfolk .
Mcflewster comments on Dec 11, 2018:
Welcome to the mix!
Hello all i just joined and just to say hi from Norfolk .
Mcflewster comments on Dec 8, 2018:
Welcome. We are becoming a force for something not sure what yet.
"Holier-Than-Thou Agnosticism: the proponent fails to justify their agnosticism with respect to ...
Mcflewster comments on Dec 6, 2018:
"fails to justify their agnosticism with respect to traditional theism". Why on earth should they? After all it is not that we know ANY answers as theists do
[] German view on Brexit and the Isle of Madness
Mcflewster comments on Nov 29, 2018:
Leaders can be changed . It is a new system and we are not living in the past. It is a first stage to world government [ which will solve so many problems] and if EU fails we go back 'n' years . Czechoslovakia is an entirely different situation but do not ask me to explain. UK can provide some excellent leaders but noit the biased Brexiteers .
I'd tell you a chemistry joke, but I'm not sure what type of reaction I'd get from you...🤔😅
Mcflewster comments on Nov 26, 2018:
Provided the activation energy was there you would get a radical reaction.
Talk about an unholy alliance.
Mcflewster comments on Nov 26, 2018:
All pointing to a weakness of Mrs May and other PMs - or rather the Irish problem should have been settled eons ago. They should have had a Scotland type agreement, unified north and south, no religious ties with strong devolved powers. No wonder the empire fell apart. Boris is just a trouble maker.
What has been your experience with humanist/agnostic/athiest groups that meet in person?
Mcflewster comments on Nov 22, 2018:
They have not the courage to speak out loudly and without upset in a way that people will listen to.
For those who will meet up with family (and friends) this holiday season, here's some advice from ...
Mcflewster comments on Nov 21, 2018:
I do not mind talking about politics or anyone else for that matter. What I do mind is someone telling me what to do. Religions do that too.
Just an update on Brexit options []
Mcflewster comments on Nov 20, 2018:
A good but Jokey assessment. My view is that we should praise leavers for starting the process (OR getting it out of our hair )and then treat the 2016 referendum as PART of the full and proper process IMO as decribed below i.e. use the chance to be educated whilst we are in the crisis or we will have countless other chaos referenda whilst we are putting Mr Cameron on trial for leading us on his path. No democratic referendum should be without at least these important phases . 

1 A vote to fire a ‘starting gun’ 2 An intensive fact finding phase in which any opposing sides should give full free and deep information with integrity, nothing hidden and no cunning distractions. 3 Lots of negotiation 4. A vote to decide the acceptability of what has been decided.
5. Revisions of offers and acceptances .
6. Final conclusion. Re Brexit, so far we have had only No 1 (in 2016) . Well done if you asked for it and voted 
 Not 2,3,4. Perhaps we will get no 5 soon and 6 will follow when ready. As a comparative test there are literally millions of people across the world who will have used all of these these process when they have been on strike. Not all strikes fulfil this ideal above however but when they do follow the above millions of people have been satisfied by these processes .

Why should Brexit be any different?
Trump supporter: "Would you vote for Oprah for president?"
Mcflewster comments on Nov 17, 2018:
Sad, but then I am not American so cannot really comment
Are you a better person ,since joining Agnostic.
Mcflewster comments on Nov 16, 2018:
This you are reading was posted on 16th Nov. The original post was intending to compare the changes to our members that result from membership of with other social media, like Facebook etc. It IS difficult to define "better person". I really did not intend to imply that just being in the site actually improves one. IMO this site does improve us even if you don't notice but some people did report satisfying changes. I wonder if anyone has de-registered from the site in order to improve themselves? We shall never know.
Can you tell us the most altruistic thing you have ever done?
Mcflewster comments on Nov 14, 2018:
Mine is the decision to cause the birth of my children, or maybe there are other things competing.
Please give us your feelings about the following, which I gave as a reply in another post.
Mcflewster comments on Nov 13, 2018:
"Check the facts up front?" or "Opinions differ, facts scientifically found don't" Please improve both for me
Do you think we ought consider a re-write of the Ten Commandments specifically for the Third ...
Mcflewster comments on Nov 13, 2018:
Anything withe the word command in it will not work.
Frank Turek (supremo Christian apologist) finally got it right about atheists.
Mcflewster comments on Nov 12, 2018:
So all we have to do is stop talking about God with any mind and that's him ....gone.
Who will decorate for the holidays?
Mcflewster comments on Nov 8, 2018:
Who is the point snatcher??
Youtube atheist: A little about CompelledUnbeliever - YouTube
Mcflewster comments on Nov 6, 2018:
I attend monthly a group of Skeptics and Believers in Henley on Thames UK. I am not be-littling your on- line work in any way but it would be so good if Christians and Atheist in America and the UK got together in a friendly and deliberately safe situation , talking just as you do on the videos on your part to just start the proper examination of these matters.
Anyone advise on how best to get to level 2?
Mcflewster comments on Nov 4, 2018:
Forget the target, it is for enjoyment . If it stalls there is something wrong. Would be sorry to lose you but that's life.
True it's disgustingly true!!!!
Mcflewster comments on Nov 4, 2018:
Hell would be pretty crowded as there are plenty of others who had no chance of "Knowing Christ" either because they were not born or because they lived outside the middle east.
Remember when these guys were unmissable watching on in a Saturday night ?
Mcflewster comments on Nov 3, 2018:
There is something peculiarly British about these two and they use language to ridicule quite a lot. I wonder if the Americans can 'get' the humour.
Boyfriend is agnostic, I'm an atheist. How to cope with disagreements?
Mcflewster comments on Nov 2, 2018:
Being an atheist is a journey which some people do very quickly and others take longer. Indoctrination is a difficult thing to shake off. Undoubtedly he should be persuaded to discuss with you some of the threads that have affected or reinforced your thinking and are found on this very site. Better still get him to ask questions on this site. Inquiry is the best mindset.
Non-religious communities
Mcflewster comments on Nov 2, 2018:
Best non religious community that I have come across is "Sunday Assembly" which I believe is global and strong in parts of the USA - there may be one near you. There is one in Reading, UK
What is the most underrated movie in your opinion?
Mcflewster comments on Nov 1, 2018:
Inherit the Wind Spencer Tracey's speech
How many here don't have a problem wishing someone a Merry Christmas or Happy Hanukkah?
Mcflewster comments on Nov 1, 2018:
I change it to Happy Yule or happy winterval in line with pre-christian times
Can science and religion be reconciled?
Mcflewster comments on Oct 28, 2018:
I completely reject this analysis. To my mind, they were never apart. To explain … First scientists and first religionists used the same processes of observation, planning, prediction, conclusions BUT the differences are that religionists had the wrong theories and imposed conclusions. They should have accepted that there may not be a conclusion [ agnosticism]. Because they made prediction that the ordinary man or woman cannot make they observed the power of seeming to know what everything was about and took on a privileged position alongside royalty and leadership. This power and privilege they are reluctant to loosen. Scientist who are also religionists have developed the habit early on of partitioning the brain to keep close to friends and relatives who have not developed this capacity–something the brain IS wired to do-e.g. split personalities etc
Any Sam Harris fans here?
Mcflewster comments on Oct 27, 2018:
What is the true purpose of religion?
Mcflewster comments on Oct 27, 2018:
Here's my AGNOSTIC shirt! I like it a lot! Thanks to Administration!
Mcflewster comments on Oct 26, 2018:
Looks good. I would like to know some reactions from people who have never seen anything like it before and do not know what it means, particularly about you . e.g Some questions they ask, whether they will continue to continue their curiosity after talking to you etc . In other words , how good is it as a BANNER.
I believe it's a good practice to base one's worldview, to the extent humanly possible, only on ...
Mcflewster comments on Oct 22, 2018:
@skado Well expressed.
My anxiety flared into being one of my infrequent but massively debilitating panic attacks.
Mcflewster comments on Oct 21, 2018:
It is very important to know what the trigger points are.
How do you handle negativity regarding your agnostic ideas?
Mcflewster comments on Oct 21, 2018:
I try to 'blind' them with science - better expressed as 'enlighten' them but when I sense they have left my train of thoughts I back peddle as it can be counterproductive. However for me knowing what their science limits are helps me to be a better science explainer. Science of course does annoy some atheists and we have a long way to go to 'sing off one hymn sheet' but I believe that is the way forward.
Just read a few comments regarding Stephen Hawkins new book,and the only conclusion I came up with.
Mcflewster comments on Oct 20, 2018:
I would usually rather trust science than god. Science and 'common sense'[of whatever variety ] are not always equivalent. Can you give me an example of the contrasts between god, Hawkins and common sense?
Hi all, i am levan, from georgia.
Mcflewster comments on Oct 15, 2018:
Hello Levan Welcome What makes you think science is important?
Here's a good philosophical question (I took it from a philosophy podcast): Suppose there existed...
Mcflewster comments on Oct 14, 2018:
I want to visualise death as switching off a light switch, so this would give me that degree of control. My father's death was unexpected and instantaneous but of course we cannot choose.
Why do you think the religious right are so intent on forcing their agendas on others???
Mcflewster comments on Oct 8, 2018:
Because they reach the people who cannot think for themselves.
I walked into a cafe somewhere in the Deep South of Oxfordshire -the village of Stoke Row, and ...
Mcflewster comments on Sep 25, 2018:
Shall I give it a go - or wait until after the war?
Here's an interesting proposition (which another post has prompted me to write): You have a ...
Mcflewster comments on Sep 17, 2018:
I have never done the following so I cannot verify its effectiveness, but I would ask the family to sit with their eyes closed (for focus only) and concentrate on the ill person. People take it in Random turns to recall an incident involving the ill person , or an anecdote, or a favorite 'anything' about the subject and try to spark a discussion about what value that person has been in life or what would make that person want to live longer by valuing what they value. In this way you cut out god but do what prayer is trying to achieve,so no miracles , nothing may happen as a result of what you do. but something **practical and real **may happen - like spark the desire to open a photo album or just relate another forgotten[ by most] story. Something good emerges only when you do not give up
This is a very personal post.
Mcflewster comments on Sep 17, 2018:
You have very good attitudes
Why would an eye evolve in a creature as, assumedly, if it didn't have an eye it wouldn't know it ...
Mcflewster comments on Sep 13, 2018:
Do you know that you need to get old? No it just happens.
It’s happened in my life.
Mcflewster comments on Sep 1, 2018:
"Humanity over religion" is a great phrase. I am sure that the Christian religion has realised this - Archbishops said over a year ago said " We Christians have to learn to be more human" . How are you tacking this with your Muslim friends in your blog and elsewhere?
I'm never doing that...
Mcflewster comments on Aug 31, 2018:
@Crimson67 Experience counts!
Which do you think is more important ?
Mcflewster comments on Aug 31, 2018:
On the one hand extremes of 'Honoring' can lead to Honor Killings. On the other hand one can earn the right to be honored as some of the post above do show, but automatic assumption that one deserves to be honored is damaging.
Such a place
Mcflewster comments on Aug 31, 2018:
Have you not heard about Sunday assemblies US and UK wide ?
All Hail fellow UK Atheists.
Mcflewster comments on Aug 30, 2018:
Welcome . Just out of interest -Are you interested in promoting any alternatives to religion? I am sure that we could hasten dis-establishment if we provided viable alternatives to what the religions provide for society - and some of it is good.
Better late than never: []
Mcflewster comments on Aug 21, 2018:
Yes we do owe her an apology.
Comments on the video please . Does it convince you that science IS for everyone? []
Mcflewster comments on Aug 20, 2018:
The title for the TED talk is "Science is for everyone, kids included".
It’s Sunday. Let’s enjoy ?
Mcflewster comments on Aug 20, 2018:
If you mean that we should enjoy a day of rest, that is a good idea - essential for a healthy life in fact. It can be spoiled by certain people telling you what to do on that day or prohibiting certain actions,attitudes and sayings. It should be a day of complete freedom - of the spirit too whatever that is.
"Amature" human here.
Mcflewster comments on Aug 17, 2018:
Welcome - sorry for the delay. Your wide experience could be very useful. I first heard the phrase "All science is mathematics" from a mentally ill (schitzo) chap in confinement in a hospital. Made me think.
I have a master's degree I was born to my parents, in an apartment, in Tacoma, WA.
Mcflewster comments on Aug 13, 2018:
What was the turning point that got you out of this dreadful upbringing?
Can you tell me how to insert a photo with the text of a question for discussion? mcflewster
Mcflewster comments on Aug 8, 2018:
tryout only
Omnism: The belief that not one religion is the only truth but that truths are found in them all.
Mcflewster comments on Aug 7, 2018:
The Bahai religion has also this thought in its manifesto.á%27%C3%AD_Faith
Good Morning Fellow Damned , I,ve just stumbled across this group .
Mcflewster comments on Jul 29, 2018: My homeland music and culture
Good Morning Fellow Damned , I,ve just stumbled across this group .
Mcflewster comments on Jul 29, 2018:
Cornwall is only in England if you want it to be. I am not English but live in England.
Which hand do you use?
Mcflewster comments on Jul 26, 2018:
The hand used is, I believe, quite important in Islamic culture.
God exists: so what
Mcflewster comments on Jul 20, 2018:
He exists only as long as we talk about him/her. There I have done it again.
So, agnostic to me means doubter, and to doubt something is to question it's validity.
Mcflewster comments on Jul 19, 2018:
'Doubting' is just the beginning of the process which must be continued by asking countless questions and getting satisfactory answers. The phase 'Agnostic, comes about PERHAPS when you can see something good in both sides and you cannot prove the most important things on both sides. It is quite different from 'fence sitting' and a lot of philosophical questions reach the Agnostic phase awaiting proofs .
I hate the phrases "Brexit means Brexit" and "leave means leave" They degrade the ...
Mcflewster comments on Jul 16, 2018:
@David_Cooper What I think "Brexit means Brexit" means is " I want to leave the EU for a couple of reasons but I do not want anyone to raise any points that I had not thought of and encourage other people to do the same". We have not heard Brexiteers explaining the most important reasons that they want to leave OR the reasons they are holding from us (- mostly to improve their own finances). "Brexit means Brexit" is most certainly hiding things .
Mcflewster comments on Jul 3, 2018:
Both are delusional but in religion both activist and follower are deluded.
Do you think a good person is someone who never gets angry?
Mcflewster comments on Jul 2, 2018:
Anger usually arises from lack of communication which in turn causes frustration . If you have to get angry in order to communicate , find a better way.
“Do not judge, or you will be judged.
Mcflewster comments on Jul 1, 2018:
@Count Thank you for your link to and the writing of Zat Rana . On reading some of his other pieces I judge that he has another (Faith) agenda directed towards his personal improvements website and so has vested interest in proving science wrong Everyone's experience of making judgments is bound to be personal and cannot really be helped by another person's experiences. This affects my view of science which I believe should be increasingly personal in nature - still working of course to get agreement across society but being guided by personal conclusions as on this site.
Military religion.
Mcflewster comments on Jun 29, 2018:
I think of a world without borders A free world about everything, beliefs, thoughts, free religion, ...
Mcflewster comments on Jun 19, 2018:
Global army first. Then Global government.
Does anyone else agree that the only sort of competition that is healthy for society is when one ...
Mcflewster comments on Jun 16, 2018:
@kiramea @wordywalt @jujuofthesea @Faithless1
@MichaelSpinler @TiberiusGracchus
@JimmyOneLeg93 @LiterateHiker @jwd45244 @pepperjones @Mofferatu
@sAl @girlwithsmiles @wndrngcld @McVinegar @bigpawbullets @Jacar @NotAndrew @vnufall @memorylikeasiev @IamNobody @Michael_D @mattersauce @AwarenessNow I would like to point out that I have neither objected to the concept of competition or said that sport and exercise are bad things . I simply wanted to point out that there is a bad side to competition [which a few people picked up on]. Competition involves a lot of comparison between individual abilities and teams etc. However it rarely bothers to find out if one is comparing like with like so that wrong judgments can lead to disappointments. If you do not have the genes, strength, intelligence, persistence and connections of Usain Bolt you will never beat him unless you improve all your own attributes and more. Of course you can quickly find out where you are in these respects by run a quick dash with him, but I think it would be better to concentrate on your own attributes using science of course. Team competition involves you surrendering some of your own abilities to let stronger people come forward in a spirit of co-operation and is far more complicated. “ in good fun rather than serious competition. There isn't any money involved either ” is a good phrase to avoid all the disappointments of competition and bad judgments.
Anyone had any experience with the challenges and problems of teaching evolution in schools?
Mcflewster comments on Jun 8, 2018:
The most dangerous misuse of a soundbite regarding evolution is " Evolution is the survival of the fittest ". It should always be replaced with "Evolution is the survival of the most adaptable".
Empathy For Human Beings - Supporting Each Other
Mcflewster comments on Jun 1, 2018:
EVIL = LACK of Empathy No other definition required.
Freedom from religion. Are things changing fast enough?
Mcflewster comments on May 22, 2018:
IMO or even IMHO. The establishment of this site is one of the best things that could happen to solve the religious problems of the US of A ........EVENTUALLY. The world is for turning!
Hello! Just joined Agnostic.
Mcflewster comments on May 22, 2018:
Welcome . We are all interested to know if MEGHAN had any influence on your interest in the UK
So the maximum bet on fixed odds machines has tumbled to £2.
Mcflewster comments on May 21, 2018:
Unemployment is low. Good chance of another job for those employed by betting shops. What chance of regaining your respect, house and family after losing all through addiction?
Anyone else here involved in ' Street Epistomology' or is this simply an American activity?
Mcflewster comments on May 13, 2018:
Your post led me into a subject I had no idea went on. Thanks for introducing it to me and the site. Do you do this sort of thing?The videos on You tube were the best education in the technique. However I have the same objection to this as to philosophy in general . There are no hard testing points, clear aims and clean techniques for confirming that one has actually achieved anything. Ok anything that get people thinking apart from being told what to believe is a good thing . Is there anything more to it than that? All religion is about submission is the most that I learned from it.
Any Humanists amongst us? ://
Mcflewster comments on May 11, 2018:
Humanists(UK) has just won a battle with the faith schools to disallow them from controlling their intake on a faith basis. I have been a member since 1965
Substitutes for Religious Practices (1) Why wait for religions to decline more ?
Mcflewster comments on May 4, 2018:
My three things that as a human you cannot escape, no matter how much you try (except perhaps by being a hermit) are Politics, Religion and Science. They are built in to society. Like most people here I am tired of what religions have been pedalling and this is why I am asking for better substitutes NOW.
We have had two very famous very sick children lately Charlie Guard and Alfie Evans.
Mcflewster comments on Apr 30, 2018:
Every hospital should have a specialist with some training in medicine - perhaps even a retired doctor and the specialist's job should be that of explaining the science behind the child's illness. I believe that Alfie's "brain was being destroyed" . I do not understand how that could happen. Doctors are now beginning to rely on patients to understand their illnesses. However I would not advocate going flat out into Google without a specialist alongside you who has the time allocated to help.
Do you know about works of Robert Green Ingersoll?
Mcflewster comments on Apr 30, 2018:
"Happiness is the only good.. the time to be happy is now and the way to be happy is to make others so". Robert Green Ingersoll American Humanist 1876. Use extensively by the British Humanist Association.
Saw this, loved it, thought I'd share it.
Mcflewster comments on Apr 28, 2018:
Surely there would be at least one book in the lefthand shelves !
Why do we assume that physical laws exist, i.
Mcflewster comments on Apr 26, 2018:
Quote From the first world war "If you know a better hole[Dug out trench] .. Go to it" Sorry to be flippant but I feel about this assumption that this all we will get for quite a few millennia. When is the best time to question assumptions ? Perhaps when you are testing out a new theory/ What would that be?
I joined this site because there many things to be discovered yet and not to be bothered with ...
Mcflewster comments on Apr 23, 2018:
Being an agnostic means that you are well prepared for anything that may be discovered in the future, All scientists SHOULD be agnostic. Why would you set out to discover anything if you NEW the answer already. All science should be a surprise.
Can One be religious and Skeptically agnostic?
Mcflewster comments on Apr 23, 2018:
@Gwendolyn2018: 23rd April A very good analysis . We need to get religion out by its roots - keeping the good things (e.g. socialisation) of course.
Just wondering how many post-Christians there are in this group
Mcflewster comments on Apr 23, 2018:
I used confirmation for christianity as a test of god. He failed.
William James, father of American psychology, tells of meeting an old lady who told him the Earth ...
Mcflewster comments on Apr 22, 2018:
Why doesn't the thinker try real science?
Feelings about your own Funerals
Mcflewster comments on Apr 21, 2018:
There is a lot that this site can do to get people to trust other people. Not to destroy your privacy - just to trust. If you have planned to have others at your funeral you have been trying to see the value in all people. Good luck with yours.
Feelings about your own Funerals
Mcflewster comments on Apr 20, 2018:
@Gwendolyn2018 @JimmyM @Bloodswolf @ArthurPhillips @EMC2 @BearsNPenn @WileEQuixote @Shelton @Browneyedlady
@Holysocks @AMNOTGOD @ThereIsADog @xyz123 @Rugglesby @pthomas59 @Bonfire13 @LeighShelton @jonds56
@Reikodriver1981 @alvinsmom @Silver1wun @Thatguyy @babsy @LenHazell53 @SilverDollarJedi @sassygirl3869 @LenHazell53 @KKGator @VAL3941 @birdingnut @snytiger6
@jacpod Observations on Funeral post This contains some generalisation but it may well not be a representative sample of Americans and the UK population. It is not meant as a judgement on anyone’s views of their own funeral. It is more about what can happen when religions do disappear. 1. It is amazing how the template of religious funerals has straightjacketed so many people’s thoughts. Are we not Freethinkers? 2. Although many people say “Don’t want a funeral” others rightly say “It is not for the dead but the living." I did ask about the people who would attend your funeral but very sadly not much mention there. This same effect many years ago led to the establishment of the job “professional mourners” Very sad. 3. It is usually a civic duty to dispose of your body hygienically and with respect. Although some cities will give paupers funerals to those in appropriate circumstances. 4. Funerals can and are becoming completely in your controls [subject to bye-laws]. And with of course the help of someone that is not you. Just keep asking funeral directors for a personal service. Planning now IS a possibility. Start a readily accessible book . Why keep it secret? 5. Making sure it is enjoyable( through learning) for everyone there IS an aim.
Feelings about your own Funerals
Mcflewster comments on Apr 19, 2018:
@Gwendolyn2018 I would like to join you in your pursuit of accuracy over “Your Funerals’. Is it not obvious from the context of the site that I am asking a lot of people about their own particular funeral ? What should I have said to make it clearer ? Only just passed all my English exams here in UK. Anyway I hope that I have convinced you that any single person can have more than one funeral . It has been known for relatives to hold a ceremony on each subsequent anniversary of death but maybe those person’s relatives do not move on from the death so is a bit obsessive
Feelings about your own Funerals
Mcflewster comments on Apr 18, 2018:
@Gwendolyn2018 From Wikipedia A "living funeral" is usually done by someone who knows that he or she does not have much time left to live. Whether the reason is that the person is terminally ill or is at an old age, the person knows death is near and could use it as closure. It is used to celebrate the happy times, and forgive the body for "failing".[1]
There is no agnostic vs. atheist! The peeve I have...
Mcflewster comments on Apr 18, 2018:
@EdwinMcCravy: You say meaningless for 'God' but other people do put their own meaning whenever they hear it. Any ideas about how to stop everyone hearing it ever again? This is why I am not a secularist, people who believe in keeping it separate.I believe it will take so long to go away that it is a waste of effort to form partitions when we could be engaged in getting it to actually go away - however slowly.
Brit living in USA Would love to join this group and keep in touch with what's happening at home.
Mcflewster comments on Apr 17, 2018:
You are very Welcome. Don't agree about the numbers USA/UK. Agnostics abound everywhere often closet. We need an additional site like this one in the UK too although each site must accept international membership. At least one major non religious UK organisation has given up on forums for years now ,much to my dismay.
What is chemistry?
Mcflewster comments on Apr 16, 2018:
I decide 30 years ago that I had to tell my freshers this because they chose the subject without fully realising what the subject was about. Chemistry . It uses two or more substances to first investigate the nature (property) of that unique (and pure ) substance and then by experiment find how it changes to one or more completely new substance(s) with a completely different nature (set of properties). BTW you are a complex mixture of substance and you cannot stay alive without doing chemistry. NB Best done with a few actual demonstrations of dramatic change. e.g bangs In the romantic context? If you come together and together you make a new "substance" - (Mood, behaviour pattern, way of living) something that never existed before and would not exist without the other person then you have CHEMISTRY. Good luck with your experiments!! sometimes the new substance is a baby with appearance and traits coming from both partners
I was 12 the day I stopped believing.
Mcflewster comments on Apr 16, 2018:
" I wonder what'll happen next." You have been able to review your life and look at it truthful to yourself. I see you as developing this skill to help other people. Getting as many comments and Likes as this is just the start. Not a Pastor but a therapist perhaps ?
Mcflewster comments on Apr 13, 2018:
@Red_Cat @Rufus_Maximus @Savage @pictomaniac @SimonMorgan1 This post is to replace one with this first line .. [Meetup] It is about looking at Christian and other religious media for research into how to conduct our own business. In other words, “Know your enemy”. In order to see the actual site please copy and paste the URL above into the address line of your own browser, however I reproduce below the text of the ‘About section’ so as to pass my comment on it. I can understand that some will want to keep away from these sites altogether. Because I messed up several people thought that I was promoting the site and commented accordingly. My apologies - this is a second attempt. *********************Text from the meetup site**************************** What we're about Public Group Do you struggle to connect with more institutional forms of church or religion yet yearn for a genuinely inclusive community where Christian spirituality can be explored and deepened and where creativity is embraced? Do you long for a faith-space where it’s safe to search and disagree, where questions are welcomed and where it’s ok to be “not ok”? A place where generosity, hospitality, welcome, laughter, honest dialogue, prayer, justice-seeking, children, grace, worship, vulnerability, love, and a passion for life are prioritised and treasured? Perhaps one (or more) of the following movements, approaches, writers or thinkers mean something to you? Richard Rohr, Anne Lamott, Rob Bell, Brene Brown, Jean Vanier, Brian Maclaren, Rachel Held Evans, Henri Nouwen, Shane Claiborne, John Bell, contemplative spirituality, the emerging/alternative church movement, mysticism, Greenbelt Festival, new monasticism, creative worship... to name but a few? Maybe you haven’t heard of ANY of these but you are intrigued. Or you’re a skeptic who likes the idea of a wild, transformative God or feels inexplicably drawn to the person of Jesus? Perhaps you find yourself wondering if there are other people in the Newbury area asking similar questions or exploring creative ideas of faith and Christianity? Anne Lamott says that “the opposite of faith is not doubt; it’s certainty”. We agree. However, there is at least one thing we are certain of: there’s no such thing as a perfect church. Such a group doesn’t exist- not here, not anywhere. We have more questions than answers. And besides, this is NOT a church. It is a conversation. If you’ve answered ‘yes’ to even one of the questions above, we’d love to hear from you and to start a connection. Thanks for reading. Members (19) 1.My first observation is on the fact that there are ...