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Speaking of cults, this is the Advanced Bonewits Cult Danger Evaluation Frame. I ran across this while dabbling in weird religions. It is still a useful tool to check for cultism.

1 Internal Control: Amount of internal political and social power exercised by leader(s) over members; lack of clearly defined organizational rights for members.
2 External Control: Amount of external political and social influence desired or obtained; emphasis on directing members’ external political and social behavior.
3 Wisdom/Knowledge Claimed by leader(s); amount of infallibility declared or implied about decisions or doctrinal/scriptural interpretations; number and degree of unverified and/or unverifiable credentials claimed.
4 Wisdom/Knowledge Credited to leader(s) by members; amount of trust in decisions or doctrinal/scriptural interpretations made by leader(s); amount of hostility by members towards internal or external critics and/or towards verification efforts.
5 Dogma: Rigidity of Reality concepts taught; amount of doctrinal inflexibility or “fundamentalism;” hostility towards relativism and situationalism.
6 Recruiting: Emphasis put on attracting new members; amount of proselytizing; requirement for all members to bring in new ones.
7 Front Groups: Number of subsidiary groups using different names from that of main group, especially when connections are hidden.
8 Wealth: Amount of money and/or property desired or obtained by group; emphasis on members’ donations; economic lifestyle of leader(s) compared to ordinary members.
9 Sexual Manipulation of members by leader(s) of non-tantric groups; amount of control exercised over sexuality of members in terms of sexual orientation, behavior, and/or choice of partners.
10 Sexual Favoritism: Advancement or preferential treatment dependent upon sexual activity with the leader(s) of non-tantric groups.
11 Censorship: Amount of control over members’ access to outside opinions on group, its doctrines or leader(s).
12 Isolation: Amount of effort to keep members from communicating with non-members, including family, friends and lovers.
13 Dropout Control: Intensity of efforts directed at preventing or returning dropouts.
14 Violence: Amount of approval when used by or for the group, its doctrines or leader(s).
15 Paranoia: Amount of fear concerning real or imagined enemies; exaggeration of perceived power of opponents; prevalence of conspiracy theories.
16 Grimness: Amount of disapproval concerning jokes about the group, its doctrines or its leader(s).
17 Surrender of Will: Amount of emphasis on members not having to be responsible for personal decisions; degree of individual disempowerment created by the group, its doctrines or its leader(s).
18 Hypocrisy: amount of approval for actions which the group officially considers immoral or unethical, when done by or for the group, its doctrines or leader(s); willingness to violate the group’s declared principles for political, psychological, social, economic, military, or other gain.

amymcmxcii 6 May 19
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Thanks for posting this. I have met people who were very worried about whether relatives were getting too close to something that might have been a cult and it forms the basis of a good evaluation exercise.

On another tack it is very probable that many other organisations than actual cults would score some where on this scale. It would be interesting to see how all religions and even some of our own belief systems would score on this spectrum. anyone fancy having a go. I am not calling every organisation a cult or even any organisation a cult.

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I see this in politics.

North Korea comes to mind in the case of an extreme of State Cult. There are many examples throughout history and N. Korea doesn't have a monopoly in present day. I'd say even our political parties in the US tick several of these boxes.

Interesting post.

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Then could Militant Atheism become a cult? I think I have known atheist families whose parents employ many of these tactics.

Of course it could and does! One of the reasons I avoid the term 'atheist' is that it implies that all is known and settled and that no further discussion is necessary. That type of closed thinking is a characteristic of cults.

@OwlInASack My idea is they are "evangelistic atheists," committed to the eradication of theism. I think some on this list have identified themselves as such.

@Wallace I can see their point. I used to let folks have whatever superstitions they liked as long as they left me alone, but they won't leave me alone. Anti-abortion, anti-gay rights, anti-gay marriage, in fact just about every "anti" one can think of seems to have a religious component. It does matter what people believe.

@OwlInASack The dictionary defininition covers a range from doubt through various levels of disbelief. My view is similar to yours: "prove it!". However, in common usage, the word takes on a harder meaning in my experience. Another reason for me is that we don't need a special word to express a disbelief in god(s) just as we don't a special word for those who don't believe in leprechans or the tooth fairy.

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It's quite true that not all cults are religious. Military and para-military organisations are cults: brothers-in-arms and all that. Multi-level marketing schemes (MLM) are cults: Amway, Melaleuca, Watkins. And of course, political parties, especially these days.

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I have a friend who was raised in Scientology and thankfully got away from it. All of this stuff applies. It's just disgusting.

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Ideologies and governments work similarly. It is all about power, control. The ability to mobilize resources and manipulate people for hegemony is a common goal.

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Gee....too much work

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Ahh, the old ABCDE test.......

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I read your information on Coults, one man's calls another man's religion
I started to think about organizations that under these definitions would fit many of the points. for example the US Army, the Jehovah's Witnesses for sure, the Catholic Church.
I think we should establish some Criterium how many points have to be Matt in order to truly call the organization a cult. I propose we need 6 out of 10 points to call it a cult.
you tell me and we'll figure that out

Oh, ALL religions are cults.
Make no mistake about that.
Some have just been around longer, and become more mainstream than others.
They're ALL still cults.

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I am WAY too defiant to be a good candidate for cult membership.
I suck at doing what I'm told.
LOL

Me too. This is our defining characteristic. let us be proud of it.

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Wow that is some fucked up crap.

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Sounds like almost every religion

Doesn't it though?

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Sounds like most religions to me.

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