Well having remembered going over healthcare with you in the past I can understand your concern. From your own comments you are fairly well taken care of and don't want to see changes. I only wish all people were in the same position as you to relish in. You're about as close to socialized healthcare one could find themselves in without actual socialized healthcare being implicated.

{I branch away at those words to claim that without a doubt American healthcare will be maintained through social security if Trump loses.}

I'm curious to where you get this information from. Without a doubt? Has Joe Biden promised this to the nation? Healthcare is going to be put on the back of SS along with all its already verbal disproval's from our representatives. Mainly republicans and blue dog democrats, which Biden is one of, who he'll need support from to do so.

Are you mistakenly under the impression Medicare is part of Social Security? Medicare mainly funded through a separate tax deduction from our payrolls. They are 2 different tax categories on my paystubs. Medicaid is monitored through Medicare state by state jointly with the FED---- Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services---the bottom link. How deep SS is into this system I'm unable to find. Just that it does play some roll in it. If you have the figures I'd like to see them.

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If you think I or anyone in my shoes who, I personally, have been paying into these systems since I was 16 my entire life isn't concerned about this issue, and going to be pissed if our money is stolen from us, you're crazy. Sorry, no other way to put that I tend to brush this subject off like taking guns away from us. When it comes there's nothing we can do about it. Quite frankly, at this point we deserve what we get for allowing this gangster government to get away with what they've been doing all this time. Which is part of the very foundation of my dissenting argument for the past 20 years. I'll save my fingers the typing of the many reasons Biden has played a large role in this and will probably let you down with your vote. The only logical reason SS will survive will be if there's any fear in our government of how we react. Same as with guns.

@William_Mary Try looking into the Trump Tweets for your answer on this. They are all recorded. Either Trump is lying again or he means it. He Tweets that doing away with social security will also end Medicare and Medicaid. Funded by the states? Yes, but only if the money is deducted from payroll checks. I know the deducted amounts are all broken down on the payroll stub. Social security is only a part of it. [factba.se]

@DenoPenno well you pretty much underlined the major problem there. Trust and substance are the issues. I guess my point is is that there's a lot of entanglement in that one social aspect. Obviously it seems to be a major concern to you and you're a few steps ahead of me on it. I might suggest you found your calling for the group?