Is there a distinction between dying for one's religion and dying for one's nation? Do nations offer more legitimate "higher purpose" than religions?
What a catch 22, the semantics that can be applied could take a critical thinker a day to respond to. It isn't so simplistic today with the vast colonialism injustices that have taken place, especially within the last 100 years alone. The forced immigration that has cause multi universal cultural and religious sects now mixed throughout many nations is at times chaotic and often used to divide. Those who have been forced to change their religions or cultural beliefs. Economic conditions in regards to job losses from international trade deals forcing some to rely on joining a military for income. Many who come home realizing the war crimes they played a part in. Ask the many from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars how that goes. Who haven't committed suicide. Those 3 aspects alone deserve a good deal of time to decipher through.
They can come as separate or combined theories within ideology. Religions have a tendency to combine them. The western societies within nationalist ideology will attempt to combine them, whether it's a genuine narrative or false. That's another subject on it's own right. The US within especially Evangelicals, then some Christians, and fascist entities, this also spread throughout Europe. The Ukraine issue for the fascist is another prime example. As in the video in my posted yesterday exposed one on a bus declaring it wood be as good to die in their holy war for Ukraine as to survive it.
I'd be curious to know how many people on this site as non-religious are willing to die for their countries illegal perpetual warring agendas?
What is your sense of a higher purpose? That alone provides more semantics to decipher through. Again, with the US for an example, with multiple cases of those forced into immigration to here and native American's the semantics is so diverse that as individual responses go they can seem to be insulting, disingenuous.
People willing to die for any agenda are rare: suicide bombers, kamikaze pilots. People willing to risk death for a purpose is much more common. Many times the initial purpose for this risk of death is for a higher agenda, but in my opinion the actual acts of valor are for your bonds with your comrades.
Any legitimacy is a personal question.
IMO, kinda incomparable and unrelated!
as Humans, we NEED Society to survive and make things Done, But Religion is totally useless! ( at least today ).
Nation: " a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory. "
Exactly what we need to KEEP society Bonded and in Order, otherwise all will be destroyed during the time.
Ukraine might be a good example in that it represents honest self-determination while the foe represents a wholly corrupt and illegitimate entity that is indifferent to cruelty. As all religions are dishonest control schemes intent on control, fraud and also indifferent to cruelty, none of them are worth dying for (unless you are brainwashed).