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If the Facts Come Out, it Could Spell the End for Joe Biden

The Establishment media is in a frenzy about what they hope will be the downfall of Trump, but if the facts come out, it could be the downfall of Joe Biden instead, writes Ray McGovern.

[consortiumnews.com]

I went through this in 2016 people with Clinton. Same as in 2016, where Sanders stayed in line with the same few spoken issues refusing to mention many past issues to produce real concerns towards voting for her, we're getting the same for 2020 to save Biden from his horrid history. Almost to a tee we have quagmires in interfering in other democratic governments, supplying arms and funding terrorist groups, some of a fascism nature, glorifying themselves in war zone areas, extreme support for the ruling class over their constituents. Like the main stream media these other candidates will not dig out the real concerns of each other to truly put forth a meaningful due process of elect-ability for our benefit. After all, as I have stated, they aren't fighting for you, they're fighting against you.

{“It was in February [2014] when Yanukovych was overthrown, and just a few months later (in May), Joe Biden’s son and a close friend of John Kerry’s stepson, they both join the board of this Ukrainian gas company.}

I've brought this quagmire to the group a few times as it was initiated by both the republican and democrat parties. Under Obama's administration, war monger Ar {R}John McCain, Conn {D}Senator Christopher Murphy, and Victoria Nuland, then acting Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs, instigated a coup on a democratically elected government on false narratives which resulted in civil unrest and then falsely painted a delusional reality of the outcome. Scores of innocent civilians and police killed by snipers and fascist paramilitary brought to end the protest of the injustice this society was served. A number of assignations and eventually an airliner being shot down, falsely blamed on Russia. All evidence later showing the only launchers in the area that could have fired that particular rocket was in the control of the Nazi military groups these war mongers allowed to be installed by their now puppet government. Who are also today training other fascist entities around the globe via the internet and those who visit them in the Ukraine. Yes, some of the latest shootings here in the US have ties to this group in which some have been to the Ukraine.

So if you tell me Biden is better than Trump, I'm sorry, no I am not, because you're missing a lot of pieces to the puzzle. Biden is a Trump!

William_Mary 8 Sep 22
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Boy was I pissed when Biden tossed his hat in the ring. Given that the whole circus of 2 parties and fair elections is simply a display for the sheeple you are preaching to the choir. Trying to educate Americans is the real issue.
TY for posting.

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No Biden is not Trump. He is not a great candidate and I am not happy with him as a choice, but realistically, he is not Trump. Trump has mental illness and is unstable. We need to be realistic about that.

GreatNani Level 8 Sep 22, 2019

And what might you call all of Biden's misstatements on time lines, misunderstanding of past collaborations with bad legislation, in which he first attempts to justify before he admits error, and wacky responses where he babbles on going off subject? Even the main stream media has a hard time not bringing these to light. He's not mentally sound either. And when it's all said and done, both are fulfilling the benefits of the ruling class. Not you or any of us. They are indeed the same when the day is over.

@William_Mary Biden is old and should not be running. Trump is unstable and could destroy this country, as in setting off a war, and he is hugely divisive and a racist and a misogynist. Not saying that Biden is wonderful but he is not going to deliberately unleash the hate that Trump has and make it ok. And he is pro choice, as of now which is also important to me. Trump is an imbecile that could set us into a world war if we don't get rid of him. That being said, Biden is not my first choice.

@GreatNani Biden fed the hate at the border going on right now with his policies in Central America. In which neither him or the democrat party as a whole are doing anything about. Biden spread hate in Ukraine with the backing of an overthrow of a democratically elected government killing many and a downing of an airline. Did you even read the article? Or any in reference to my comments in the past. I have posted evidence of his hate via his policies. If you can't see the hate in his policies for his willingness to sacrifice innocent humans for the benefit of resources and corporations you're simply missing the big picture. His actions in the Ukraine are feeding hate right here in the US having backed a fascist entity who now help with spreading that movement here and around the globe. One is no better than the other. Picking what you see as a lesser evil to the evil is just as evil. That's the way they've managed it for us.

@William_Mary Well what would your suggestion be? Who would you pick? And who is a realistic candidate, not a pipe dream but someone who could get elected now and defeat Trump?

@GreatNani My preferred parties haven't yet went through the process of electing a candidate. It will not be a democrat or a republican, that much I can say. Change will not come from the establishment and a lot of people need to start realizing this.

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