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God is not necessary for religion.
Mofo1953 comments on Jan 13, 2020:
You care too much about things that are false. Yes both gods and religions have existed only to eventually disappear, I don't see nowadays a church for Osiris or Mithra for example, and eventually current religions will disappear as knowledge and science continue advancing. For many like me, both ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 13, 2020:
@Mofo1953 it is not compulaise or mania. Is wrong to want to live in reality? Is it wrong to want to help others to live in reality? Look up compulsive and mania as I did. I am neither. To have a passion about living life in reality is not a mental disorder, living life in a delusion is. I do hate religion as it is harmful. This does not mean that I have mental problems.
You are literally suggesting that I have mental problems for wanting to live in reality. You owe me an apology.
Mofo1953 comments on Jan 13, 2020:
You care too much about things that are false. Yes both gods and religions have existed only to eventually disappear, I don't see nowadays a church for Osiris or Mithra for example, and eventually current religions will disappear as knowledge and science continue advancing. For many like me, both ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 13, 2020:
@Mofo1953 it is not compulaise or mania. Is wrong to want to live in reality? Is it wrong to want to help others to live in reality? Look up compulsive and mania as I did. I am neither. To have a passion about living life in reality is not a mental disorder, living life in a delusion is. I do hate religion as it is harmful. This does not mean that I have mental problems.
You are literally suggesting that I have mental problems for wanting to live in reality. You owe me an apology.
Religion was not created to control anyone or groups of people.
Omnedon comments on Jan 12, 2020:
Agreed. Religion gradually emerged, and some took advantage of it. Without looking into it, right at the moment I'm wondering about the first known evidence of religious practice. How long has it existed, and how long will it continue to exist? A long time in both cases, I imagine.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 13, 2020:
@rainmanjr If we neglect to understand history we will repeat it. When we look into the mistakes of the past only then can we move forward and make better choices for our future.
Omnedon comments on Jan 12, 2020:
Agreed. Religion gradually emerged, and some took advantage of it. Without looking into it, right at the moment I'm wondering about the first known evidence of religious practice. How long has it existed, and how long will it continue to exist? A long time in both cases, I imagine.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 13, 2020:
@rainmanjr If we neglect to understand history we will repeat it. When we look into the mistakes of the past only then can we move forward and make better choices for our future.
Religion was not created to control anyone or groups of people.
Fernapple comments on Jan 13, 2020:
Very true and I agree with you completely about the origins of religion. But I think that you are constructing a strawman argument about the people who use the 'control' argument. Most of them do well understand the other roles of religion, especially at its origin and in early times, they are just ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 13, 2020:
No straw man here this is exactly what I am told. They do use "shorthand" and this is the problem I have with it.
Fernapple comments on Jan 13, 2020:
Very true and I agree with you completely about the origins of religion. But I think that you are constructing a strawman argument about the people who use the 'control' argument. Most of them do well understand the other roles of religion, especially at its origin and in early times, they are just ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 13, 2020:
No straw man here this is exactly what I am told. They do use "shorthand" and this is the problem I have with it.
God is not necessary for religion.
SeaGreenEyez comments on Jan 12, 2020:
Maybe you mean: God doesn't have to exist for theism to exist ... ?
This matters because other than the Abrahamic religions, the concept of an omnipotent god/God/gods is not the centerpiece of the other most prominent world religions of today (ie: Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, etc., etc.)...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 13, 2020:
If these gods did not exist would the Buddist notice? That is my point. Existance is not necessary for belief.
SeaGreenEyez comments on Jan 12, 2020:
Maybe you mean: God doesn't have to exist for theism to exist ... ?
This matters because other than the Abrahamic religions, the concept of an omnipotent god/God/gods is not the centerpiece of the other most prominent world religions of today (ie: Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, etc., etc.)...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 13, 2020:
If these gods did not exist would the Buddist notice? That is my point. Existance is not necessary for belief.
God is not necessary for religion.
creative51 comments on Jan 12, 2020:
Religion is a means of gaining power and controlling people. God is their excuse to do so. Followers who buy in to this and believe in God are brainwashed people who are controlled by the religion. The control of people is, with the desire to gain power, the original reasons for religion. Scared ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 13, 2020:
L Ron Hubbard told a friend that if you wanted people to do as you wish create a religion. He did somabout ten years later.
creative51 comments on Jan 12, 2020:
Religion is a means of gaining power and controlling people. God is their excuse to do so. Followers who buy in to this and believe in God are brainwashed people who are controlled by the religion. The control of people is, with the desire to gain power, the original reasons for religion. Scared ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 13, 2020:
L Ron Hubbard told a friend that if you wanted people to do as you wish create a religion. He did somabout ten years later.
God is not necessary for religion.
Shawno1972 comments on Jan 13, 2020:
"God is not necessary for religion. Oddly enough it is true."
I do not know why anyone would think it is odd. The word "religion," according to Oxford, has 3 primary meanings. Only one of them states anything about a deity.
"So lets say that religions did worship real gods and somehow those ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 13, 2020:
Being that gods do not openly communicate with everyone or maybe anyone if they did not exist at all how would anyone know? There is no reason to think that religious cerimonies would not continue without missing a beat.
Shawno1972 comments on Jan 13, 2020:
"God is not necessary for religion. Oddly enough it is true."
I do not know why anyone would think it is odd. The word "religion," according to Oxford, has 3 primary meanings. Only one of them states anything about a deity.
"So lets say that religions did worship real gods and somehow those ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 13, 2020:
Being that gods do not openly communicate with everyone or maybe anyone if they did not exist at all how would anyone know? There is no reason to think that religious cerimonies would not continue without missing a beat.
God is not necessary for religion.
Mofo1953 comments on Jan 13, 2020:
You care too much about things that are false. Yes both gods and religions have existed only to eventually disappear, I don't see nowadays a church for Osiris or Mithra for example, and eventually current religions will disappear as knowledge and science continue advancing. For many like me, both ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 13, 2020:
There are a few reasons that I care deeply about what is real and not real.
I was indoctrinated into a religion that taught me to live by what was not real.
The attached video will explain about my narcalepsy. My type causes me to hallucinate every day. I personally struggle with what is real and not real. I often have memories that never happened.
I was married to a narcisist for 20 years, that told lies constantly so I did not know what stories were real or not.
I need to know what is real as I am forced to live in a real world. If I make choices based on what is not real it can be damaging to myself and others.
https://youtu.be/bMfc5CXqnbI
Mofo1953 comments on Jan 13, 2020:
You care too much about things that are false. Yes both gods and religions have existed only to eventually disappear, I don't see nowadays a church for Osiris or Mithra for example, and eventually current religions will disappear as knowledge and science continue advancing. For many like me, both ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 13, 2020:
There are a few reasons that I care deeply about what is real and not real.
I was indoctrinated into a religion that taught me to live by what was not real.
The attached video will explain about my narcalepsy. My type causes me to hallucinate every day. I personally struggle with what is real and not real. I often have memories that never happened.
I was married to a narcisist for 20 years, that told lies constantly so I did not know what stories were real or not.
I need to know what is real as I am forced to live in a real world. If I make choices based on what is not real it can be damaging to myself and others.
https://youtu.be/bMfc5CXqnbI
Religion was not created to control anyone or groups of people.
AnneWimsey comments on Jan 12, 2020:
It was obviously not Created to control people, but to explain the scary unexplainable.
But that is what is has evolved into.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
@genessa Very well said. Your not very good at the us vs. them thing are you?
AnneWimsey comments on Jan 12, 2020:
It was obviously not Created to control people, but to explain the scary unexplainable.
But that is what is has evolved into.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
@genessa Very well said. Your not very good at the us vs. them thing are you?
Religion was not created to control anyone or groups of people.
LiterateHiker comments on Jan 12, 2020:
Religion is the tool that's used to control the masses. Religion is the opiate of the masses and has little to do with a god. This packaged system of beliefs has been well marketed and has controlled people for centuries because the very nature of it feeds on control.
**"Hell" was invented by the...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
Spong is amazing and a bit odd. A believer that is both respected and hated for calling out his religion. Thank you for the links. His scholorship is not to be ignored.
Atwill may be right to an extent but his writings are not universally accepted.
LiterateHiker comments on Jan 12, 2020:
Religion is the tool that's used to control the masses. Religion is the opiate of the masses and has little to do with a god. This packaged system of beliefs has been well marketed and has controlled people for centuries because the very nature of it feeds on control.
**"Hell" was invented by the...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
Spong is amazing and a bit odd. A believer that is both respected and hated for calling out his religion. Thank you for the links. His scholorship is not to be ignored.
Atwill may be right to an extent but his writings are not universally accepted.
Religion was not created to control anyone or groups of people.
MichaelSpinler comments on Jan 12, 2020:
the bible was written to control people in their words lead your flock. this is learned in seminary school. why creationist get upset its not evidence for a god, its just a manual for leading sheeple.. and yes religion itself is the most ancient form of governing groups of people.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
Yes anytime anyone writes anything it is to influence others. When it is good its called encouragement, when it's for negative outcomes its called manipulation. In the case of the Biblical authors their "intent" may have been good. It sickens me to admit this as they often advocated murder, slavery, rape. How those intentions could be considered good is beyond me.
MichaelSpinler comments on Jan 12, 2020:
the bible was written to control people in their words lead your flock. this is learned in seminary school. why creationist get upset its not evidence for a god, its just a manual for leading sheeple.. and yes religion itself is the most ancient form of governing groups of people.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
Yes anytime anyone writes anything it is to influence others. When it is good its called encouragement, when it's for negative outcomes its called manipulation. In the case of the Biblical authors their "intent" may have been good. It sickens me to admit this as they often advocated murder, slavery, rape. How those intentions could be considered good is beyond me.
Religion was not created to control anyone or groups of people.
DenoPenno comments on Jan 12, 2020:
Excellent presentation, David. Very well said.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
I learned from some "old farts" from A/N.
DenoPenno comments on Jan 12, 2020:
Excellent presentation, David. Very well said.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
I learned from some "old farts" from A/N.
Why There Are So Many Incompetent Male Leaders
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 12, 2020:
I can only speak for myself, but it has to be the breast! I try to concentrate then breast just pop into my mind. I would write more but the breast are controlling my mind.
That being said,
The reason there are so many incompetent male leaders is that they are the majority of leaders. If the ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
@VictoriaNotes Did you just give the best definition of politics possible?
"In an environment that prioritizes confident, narcissistic and charismatic behavior, rather than those with competence, humility and integrity."
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 12, 2020:
I can only speak for myself, but it has to be the breast! I try to concentrate then breast just pop into my mind. I would write more but the breast are controlling my mind.
That being said,
The reason there are so many incompetent male leaders is that they are the majority of leaders. If the ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
@VictoriaNotes Did you just give the best definition of politics possible?
"In an environment that prioritizes confident, narcissistic and charismatic behavior, rather than those with competence, humility and integrity."
Religion was not created to control anyone or groups of people.
Mofo1953 comments on Jan 12, 2020:
Just because it pisses you off and bothers you, doesn't mean that what you think is true. Who cares about the purpose for the creation of religion, it may have been created to give easy answers to ignorance, or any other reason, what matters is what is it used for since the dawn of civilization to ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
@Mofo1953 I was not defensive as I was not proven wrong. But lets just say we disagree on this one. I am sure we will agree on many other things.
Mofo1953 comments on Jan 12, 2020:
Just because it pisses you off and bothers you, doesn't mean that what you think is true. Who cares about the purpose for the creation of religion, it may have been created to give easy answers to ignorance, or any other reason, what matters is what is it used for since the dawn of civilization to ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
@Mofo1953 I was not defensive as I was not proven wrong. But lets just say we disagree on this one. I am sure we will agree on many other things.
Religion was not created to control anyone or groups of people.
genessa comments on Jan 12, 2020:
i sometimes get dissed for having reached the same conclusion. religion is evil, evil i tell you, and evil needs... a mastermind, right? so it seems some antitheists believe in a kind of devil lol. religions developed. they developed out of a need and outlived their need, yes thanks for abuse of...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
Atheist can also get caught up into adversarial "group think". It often makes me unpopular with everyone.
genessa comments on Jan 12, 2020:
i sometimes get dissed for having reached the same conclusion. religion is evil, evil i tell you, and evil needs... a mastermind, right? so it seems some antitheists believe in a kind of devil lol. religions developed. they developed out of a need and outlived their need, yes thanks for abuse of...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
Atheist can also get caught up into adversarial "group think". It often makes me unpopular with everyone.
Religion was not created to control anyone or groups of people.
David1955 comments on Jan 12, 2020:
This is one of those big subjects. I agree that the notion of religion being deliberately created sounds a bit like a conspiracy theory, to use that modern term, and doesn't convince. I agree that religion, specifically a god, is used to explain the gaps. But I've always felt that religion evolved ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
Very well said, You made the point I was trying to. Identify the contributing dynamics then we can do something to remedy them. If we start with a fallacious premise our remedys will not be effective.
David1955 comments on Jan 12, 2020:
This is one of those big subjects. I agree that the notion of religion being deliberately created sounds a bit like a conspiracy theory, to use that modern term, and doesn't convince. I agree that religion, specifically a god, is used to explain the gaps. But I've always felt that religion evolved ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
Very well said, You made the point I was trying to. Identify the contributing dynamics then we can do something to remedy them. If we start with a fallacious premise our remedys will not be effective.
Religion was not created to control anyone or groups of people.
Mofo1953 comments on Jan 12, 2020:
Just because it pisses you off and bothers you, doesn't mean that what you think is true. Who cares about the purpose for the creation of religion, it may have been created to give easy answers to ignorance, or any other reason, what matters is what is it used for since the dawn of civilization to ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
Lets back up here it annoys me because it is wrong, it is not supposedly wrong because I do not like it. To imply such a thing is presumptious. I care about the orgins of everything as it helps us to understand humanity which is important for solving world problems. If we do not know why we do things then that is a great barier to humananity for advancement.
I did not suggest in any way that religion is not used to control in fact I stated that it is.
Outcomes are very important if we mis identify the causes of outcomes then we can do nothing to change or better them.
Rather than just saying that my statement is not well thought out please state how it is not well thought out and why. Please think it out first. I am shocked at your comments.
Mofo1953 comments on Jan 12, 2020:
Just because it pisses you off and bothers you, doesn't mean that what you think is true. Who cares about the purpose for the creation of religion, it may have been created to give easy answers to ignorance, or any other reason, what matters is what is it used for since the dawn of civilization to ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
Lets back up here it annoys me because it is wrong, it is not supposedly wrong because I do not like it. To imply such a thing is presumptious. I care about the orgins of everything as it helps us to understand humanity which is important for solving world problems. If we do not know why we do things then that is a great barier to humananity for advancement.
I did not suggest in any way that religion is not used to control in fact I stated that it is.
Outcomes are very important if we mis identify the causes of outcomes then we can do nothing to change or better them.
Rather than just saying that my statement is not well thought out please state how it is not well thought out and why. Please think it out first. I am shocked at your comments.
Religion was not created to control anyone or groups of people.
KKGator comments on Jan 12, 2020:
While religion may have started out as an "explanation", it didn't take long for
the more savvy to realize that it was a dandy way to control the masses.
As soon as the explanations started being replaced with science, it became
ALL about control.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
@Marionville actually they were statements like "religion was just made up to control people".
KKGator comments on Jan 12, 2020:
While religion may have started out as an "explanation", it didn't take long for
the more savvy to realize that it was a dandy way to control the masses.
As soon as the explanations started being replaced with science, it became
ALL about control.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
@Marionville actually they were statements like "religion was just made up to control people".
Religion was not created to control anyone or groups of people.
Archeus_Lore comments on Jan 12, 2020:
Some people believe that religion just evolved from worshiping nature, polytheism, then to monotheism . . . . I don't, I think it was helped along . . . . Monotheism has a bad influence, because it not only promotes a complete dictatorship by an imaginary being, but also promotes the idea of a ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
If that was the case they USED religion as opposed to creating the concept of religion for the purpose of control.
Archeus_Lore comments on Jan 12, 2020:
Some people believe that religion just evolved from worshiping nature, polytheism, then to monotheism . . . . I don't, I think it was helped along . . . . Monotheism has a bad influence, because it not only promotes a complete dictatorship by an imaginary being, but also promotes the idea of a ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
If that was the case they USED religion as opposed to creating the concept of religion for the purpose of control.
Religion was not created to control anyone or groups of people.
Allamanda comments on Jan 12, 2020:
It seems to me, it's largely another semantic debate. It will depend on your definition of religion. If that is 'establishment religion' then this idea is more or less true. Further, it is not necessary there be a 'grand master' or originator - a group could equally well have this idea, or evolve it...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
What you state is true, some religions have been created to control people, but a blanket statement is fallacious.
Allamanda comments on Jan 12, 2020:
It seems to me, it's largely another semantic debate. It will depend on your definition of religion. If that is 'establishment religion' then this idea is more or less true. Further, it is not necessary there be a 'grand master' or originator - a group could equally well have this idea, or evolve it...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
What you state is true, some religions have been created to control people, but a blanket statement is fallacious.
Why There Are So Many Incompetent Male Leaders
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 12, 2020:
The reason why there are more male leaders than female leaders is because patriarchal societies are not known to be female friendly. Women have been classified as not being as capable as men and the idea continues.
We have incompetent leaders today because there are many incompetent people, and ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
Yeah I would have said something smart like that but I am a guy and too busy thinking about breast... yeah we are that shallow!
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 12, 2020:
The reason why there are more male leaders than female leaders is because patriarchal societies are not known to be female friendly. Women have been classified as not being as capable as men and the idea continues.
We have incompetent leaders today because there are many incompetent people, and ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
Yeah I would have said something smart like that but I am a guy and too busy thinking about breast... yeah we are that shallow!
Religion was not created to control anyone or groups of people.
mordant comments on Jan 12, 2020:
No, there's not a "grand master" originator, it is a product of natural selection as much as evolved organisms are really. It has always been a useful fulcrum of control to authoritarians, though, and there have been grand master manipulators who have used it, from within and without and sometimes ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
Thank you for making it clearer than I was able to!
mordant comments on Jan 12, 2020:
No, there's not a "grand master" originator, it is a product of natural selection as much as evolved organisms are really. It has always been a useful fulcrum of control to authoritarians, though, and there have been grand master manipulators who have used it, from within and without and sometimes ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
Thank you for making it clearer than I was able to!
Religion was not created to control anyone or groups of people.
KKGator comments on Jan 12, 2020:
While religion may have started out as an "explanation", it didn't take long for
the more savvy to realize that it was a dandy way to control the masses.
As soon as the explanations started being replaced with science, it became
ALL about control.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
@Marionville I have seen at least three comments thst said as much, in the last few days here on this website.
KKGator comments on Jan 12, 2020:
While religion may have started out as an "explanation", it didn't take long for
the more savvy to realize that it was a dandy way to control the masses.
As soon as the explanations started being replaced with science, it became
ALL about control.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
@Marionville I have seen at least three comments thst said as much, in the last few days here on this website.
Religion was not created to control anyone or groups of people.
Omnedon comments on Jan 12, 2020:
Agreed. Religion gradually emerged, and some took advantage of it. Without looking into it, right at the moment I'm wondering about the first known evidence of religious practice. How long has it existed, and how long will it continue to exist? A long time in both cases, I imagine.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
With new discoveries the timeline gets pushed back. The problem is we find very, very old artifacts and have to make educated guesses as to their significance. We can make very good ones, but the further back in time we go the less information we have or will be able to get. So in short we will never know much and will know less the further we go back in history, this will not change. We will however make more and more discoveries that will get us closer to an answer.
Omnedon comments on Jan 12, 2020:
Agreed. Religion gradually emerged, and some took advantage of it. Without looking into it, right at the moment I'm wondering about the first known evidence of religious practice. How long has it existed, and how long will it continue to exist? A long time in both cases, I imagine.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
With new discoveries the timeline gets pushed back. The problem is we find very, very old artifacts and have to make educated guesses as to their significance. We can make very good ones, but the further back in time we go the less information we have or will be able to get. So in short we will never know much and will know less the further we go back in history, this will not change. We will however make more and more discoveries that will get us closer to an answer.
Religion was not created to control anyone or groups of people.
motrubl4u comments on Jan 12, 2020:
Oh I guess we're going back millenia then? Since human civilization stopped hunting and gathering in tribes and formed communities it's been used for control.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
Exactly, but it was not necessarily created for control.
motrubl4u comments on Jan 12, 2020:
Oh I guess we're going back millenia then? Since human civilization stopped hunting and gathering in tribes and formed communities it's been used for control.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
Exactly, but it was not necessarily created for control.
Religion was not created to control anyone or groups of people.
t1nick comments on Jan 12, 2020:
An interesting take on the issue. It's an interesting conjecture to suppose religion was invented to control the masses. The question that comes to me is.... at what point did early humans go from simple personal or extended family explanations for the unknown, to a larger community level ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
Exactly, I don't know why people seem to believe that outcomes indicate orgins.
t1nick comments on Jan 12, 2020:
An interesting take on the issue. It's an interesting conjecture to suppose religion was invented to control the masses. The question that comes to me is.... at what point did early humans go from simple personal or extended family explanations for the unknown, to a larger community level ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
Exactly, I don't know why people seem to believe that outcomes indicate orgins.
Religion was not created to control anyone or groups of people.
KKGator comments on Jan 12, 2020:
While religion may have started out as an "explanation", it didn't take long for
the more savvy to realize that it was a dandy way to control the masses.
As soon as the explanations started being replaced with science, it became
ALL about control.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
You are correct, It just annoys me when people say it was created to control.
KKGator comments on Jan 12, 2020:
While religion may have started out as an "explanation", it didn't take long for
the more savvy to realize that it was a dandy way to control the masses.
As soon as the explanations started being replaced with science, it became
ALL about control.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
You are correct, It just annoys me when people say it was created to control.
Although I cannot/do not feel it would be feasible due to my job to come "out" as atheist, I would ...
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 12, 2020:
The most immoral book I have ever read. The Bible.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
@ElusiveMoby The worst sin is questioning anything.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 12, 2020:
The most immoral book I have ever read. The Bible.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
@ElusiveMoby The worst sin is questioning anything.
Why don't Christians understand what a parable is or that it is a mystery religion?
skado comments on Jan 11, 2020:
Do you know what the true meaning was?
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
That is a mystery.
skado comments on Jan 11, 2020:
Do you know what the true meaning was?
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 12, 2020:
That is a mystery.
The religulous 1...agnostics 0. Check Mate, agnostics!
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 11, 2020:
Yeah there is no picture of climate change but here we have one of the ark right here! That is true evidence!
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 11, 2020:
@Robecology Your link had pictures! Now I firmly believe both! Now which side can come up with more pictures? LOL thanks for the link.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 11, 2020:
Yeah there is no picture of climate change but here we have one of the ark right here! That is true evidence!
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 11, 2020:
@Robecology Your link had pictures! Now I firmly believe both! Now which side can come up with more pictures? LOL thanks for the link.
International Olympic Committee prohibits kneeling, hand gestures
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 11, 2020:
An olympian is there to represent their country. An olympic event is not a time to protest anything. With every protest it could cause tension with other nations. The olympics is about bringing people together not creating rifts between them.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 11, 2020:
@SeaGreenEyez While that may have happened the olympics were indeed renewed in an effort to bring nations together. The purpose may be lost but the intent was good.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 11, 2020:
An olympian is there to represent their country. An olympic event is not a time to protest anything. With every protest it could cause tension with other nations. The olympics is about bringing people together not creating rifts between them.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 11, 2020:
@SeaGreenEyez While that may have happened the olympics were indeed renewed in an effort to bring nations together. The purpose may be lost but the intent was good.
Could philosophical discussions be better and more productive? [aeon.co]
DenoPenno comments on Jan 11, 2020:
Certainly, but I don't care for them much. I'm not into Plato or Epicurus. I don't read or argue Socrates. They offer nothing to me in the modern world and I blatantly refuse to discuss religious philosophy. I will bring out religious ideas by bible claims but usually it is to show you how silly it...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 11, 2020:
Why do I constantly run into the same contankerous old man? LOL you have been a great mentor!
I totally agree Philosophy is not a good subjest to discuss with any theist as they ALWAYS conflate it with theology and can not seperate the two.
Which brings me to theology, a bunch of religious dogma that is not worth debating.
DenoPenno comments on Jan 11, 2020:
Certainly, but I don't care for them much. I'm not into Plato or Epicurus. I don't read or argue Socrates. They offer nothing to me in the modern world and I blatantly refuse to discuss religious philosophy. I will bring out religious ideas by bible claims but usually it is to show you how silly it...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 11, 2020:
Why do I constantly run into the same contankerous old man? LOL you have been a great mentor!
I totally agree Philosophy is not a good subjest to discuss with any theist as they ALWAYS conflate it with theology and can not seperate the two.
Which brings me to theology, a bunch of religious dogma that is not worth debating.
The best thing about being agnostic is knowing (as much as it is humanly possible) there is no hell.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 11, 2020:
I did a special study on hell. I consulted both Elaine Pagels, and Bart Ehrman and they both were very helpful. Last year Bart told me he is writing a book on hell. I eagerly await its release!
Long story short, I found the most evolution in the Christian religion is in the area of the hell ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 11, 2020:
@SeaGreenEyez I was misspoken wheen I said it did not exist as a cincept. They did understand the concept but it was not necessarily an edit of the earliest beliefs. They were Jews and even many Jews do not believe in hell. Sheol is literally a Roman/ Greek concept that was adapted but he idea was not prevelent or believed in by the earliest of followers that we can asertain from the earliest documents. Any concept of hell thst they did have was not important or even comparable to the modern concept. This is all relatively new. It would be like saying that 500 years ago people enjoyed hamburgers because they ate cow and bread. The difference is that profound. This is not to say the references you provided were not seeds for modern hell beliefs.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 11, 2020:
I did a special study on hell. I consulted both Elaine Pagels, and Bart Ehrman and they both were very helpful. Last year Bart told me he is writing a book on hell. I eagerly await its release!
Long story short, I found the most evolution in the Christian religion is in the area of the hell ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 11, 2020:
@SeaGreenEyez I was misspoken wheen I said it did not exist as a cincept. They did understand the concept but it was not necessarily an edit of the earliest beliefs. They were Jews and even many Jews do not believe in hell. Sheol is literally a Roman/ Greek concept that was adapted but he idea was not prevelent or believed in by the earliest of followers that we can asertain from the earliest documents. Any concept of hell thst they did have was not important or even comparable to the modern concept. This is all relatively new. It would be like saying that 500 years ago people enjoyed hamburgers because they ate cow and bread. The difference is that profound. This is not to say the references you provided were not seeds for modern hell beliefs.
The best thing about being agnostic is knowing (as much as it is humanly possible) there is no hell.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 11, 2020:
I did a special study on hell. I consulted both Elaine Pagels, and Bart Ehrman and they both were very helpful. Last year Bart told me he is writing a book on hell. I eagerly await its release!
Long story short, I found the most evolution in the Christian religion is in the area of the hell ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 11, 2020:
@SeaGreenEyez They certainlly do now but the concept of hell that we have today is due mostly to Paradise Lost and Dantes inferno. The modern concept of hell is real and prolific, but relatively recent. It is not anything close to what early Christians ( all sects) believed. When one thinks of religion one must accept that it evolves constantly. I am an amateur historian.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 11, 2020:
I did a special study on hell. I consulted both Elaine Pagels, and Bart Ehrman and they both were very helpful. Last year Bart told me he is writing a book on hell. I eagerly await its release!
Long story short, I found the most evolution in the Christian religion is in the area of the hell ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 11, 2020:
@SeaGreenEyez They certainlly do now but the concept of hell that we have today is due mostly to Paradise Lost and Dantes inferno. The modern concept of hell is real and prolific, but relatively recent. It is not anything close to what early Christians ( all sects) believed. When one thinks of religion one must accept that it evolves constantly. I am an amateur historian.
The best thing about being agnostic is knowing (as much as it is humanly possible) there is no hell.
DenoPenno comments on Jan 11, 2020:
Of course there is no hell. That concept came out of the confusion and misdirected developments presented in religious writings and scripture. If I do not believe these writings to be valid from any source why would I believe in a hell? Many people go around saying "yeah, but there still could be a ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 11, 2020:
I just hope my grandmothers roast are never reborn! They would actually choke you!
No you are not kidding, the sad thing is people rarely ask themselves these questions. It takes you to bring them to light.
DenoPenno comments on Jan 11, 2020:
Of course there is no hell. That concept came out of the confusion and misdirected developments presented in religious writings and scripture. If I do not believe these writings to be valid from any source why would I believe in a hell? Many people go around saying "yeah, but there still could be a ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 11, 2020:
I just hope my grandmothers roast are never reborn! They would actually choke you!
No you are not kidding, the sad thing is people rarely ask themselves these questions. It takes you to bring them to light.
Difference between Christianity and Islam?
Grecio comments on Jan 10, 2020:
Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are all religions "of the book", yet the all all very different. How could that be?
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 11, 2020:
Magic LOL!
Grecio comments on Jan 10, 2020:
Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are all religions "of the book", yet the all all very different. How could that be?
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 11, 2020:
Magic LOL!
Why dowsing is a con:
[video.arstechnica.com]
hankster comments on Jan 10, 2020:
I've seen this work for water lines more than once firsthand. there's no magic no Wizardry, but there's something going on about water in a line. I don't know about oil or minerals or any of the rest of that stuff, but it will work for water. I am 100% sure.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 11, 2020:
@WilliamFleming I agree, I was very impressed by what I saw with a fellow finding graves. It would be easy to write his skill off to magic. I was mystifed. I just like to keep myself honest and make sure what appears to be real is.
hankster comments on Jan 10, 2020:
I've seen this work for water lines more than once firsthand. there's no magic no Wizardry, but there's something going on about water in a line. I don't know about oil or minerals or any of the rest of that stuff, but it will work for water. I am 100% sure.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 11, 2020:
@WilliamFleming I agree, I was very impressed by what I saw with a fellow finding graves. It would be easy to write his skill off to magic. I was mystifed. I just like to keep myself honest and make sure what appears to be real is.
A very painful on-line, structured discussion. Can you follow the logic ?
[kialo.com]
girlwithsmiles comments on Jan 10, 2020:
I’m not sure if I can see the whole thing, but yes, what I can see is fine.
I would be reluctant to tell a person what to do with their own child, but am glad that medical opinion is changing as I have met men that felt they had lost out by being circumcised. I also hear that the procedure can ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 11, 2020:
There accounts of jews reversing the procedure in order to participate in the olympic games. Unfortinately there is no detailed account if it was actually done or how they did it.
girlwithsmiles comments on Jan 10, 2020:
I’m not sure if I can see the whole thing, but yes, what I can see is fine.
I would be reluctant to tell a person what to do with their own child, but am glad that medical opinion is changing as I have met men that felt they had lost out by being circumcised. I also hear that the procedure can ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 11, 2020:
There accounts of jews reversing the procedure in order to participate in the olympic games. Unfortinately there is no detailed account if it was actually done or how they did it.
Why dowsing is a con:
[video.arstechnica.com]
hankster comments on Jan 10, 2020:
I've seen this work for water lines more than once firsthand. there's no magic no Wizardry, but there's something going on about water in a line. I don't know about oil or minerals or any of the rest of that stuff, but it will work for water. I am 100% sure.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 11, 2020:
@WilliamFleming Not so open It your brain falls out. Open mindedness does not mean one should accept anything one is told.
hankster comments on Jan 10, 2020:
I've seen this work for water lines more than once firsthand. there's no magic no Wizardry, but there's something going on about water in a line. I don't know about oil or minerals or any of the rest of that stuff, but it will work for water. I am 100% sure.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 11, 2020:
@WilliamFleming Not so open It your brain falls out. Open mindedness does not mean one should accept anything one is told.
What is the one Truth or Method of finding the truth that you hold sacred above all others?
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 8, 2020:
I would add that "truth" is subjective; it is not fact.
To answer your question i define "truth" as fact.
What is the one method for finding fact that I hold above all others?
Science, that being the scientific method of determining fact. There is no more "true" methodology of determining ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 10, 2020:
@maturin1919 Words are used un different context. The word true can mean facts in some context and may mean anything that one wishes to believe. I prefer to avoid the term as it is often used to be ambigious and the word is used switching the context back and forth in order to be dishonest and "win" the argument. There is a thing called fact. I therefore like to use the word fact for facts. It relly can't be any simpler.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 8, 2020:
I would add that "truth" is subjective; it is not fact.
To answer your question i define "truth" as fact.
What is the one method for finding fact that I hold above all others?
Science, that being the scientific method of determining fact. There is no more "true" methodology of determining ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 10, 2020:
@maturin1919 Words are used un different context. The word true can mean facts in some context and may mean anything that one wishes to believe. I prefer to avoid the term as it is often used to be ambigious and the word is used switching the context back and forth in order to be dishonest and "win" the argument. There is a thing called fact. I therefore like to use the word fact for facts. It relly can't be any simpler.
Why dowsing is a con:
[video.arstechnica.com]
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 10, 2020:
I have seen people do it and convence others it was real. It was very easy to get caught up in. The problem was there is no evidence it works at all.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 10, 2020:
@WilliamFleming not unless the experiment was repeatable with anyone that used it, and it could be proven to work anywhere anytime. That is science. The next great step would be a discovery that explains why it happens.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 10, 2020:
I have seen people do it and convence others it was real. It was very easy to get caught up in. The problem was there is no evidence it works at all.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 10, 2020:
@WilliamFleming not unless the experiment was repeatable with anyone that used it, and it could be proven to work anywhere anytime. That is science. The next great step would be a discovery that explains why it happens.
Why dowsing is a con:
[video.arstechnica.com]
hankster comments on Jan 10, 2020:
I've seen this work for water lines more than once firsthand. there's no magic no Wizardry, but there's something going on about water in a line. I don't know about oil or minerals or any of the rest of that stuff, but it will work for water. I am 100% sure.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 10, 2020:
I have heard a relative did so with consistant success. This being said until it can be proven that it does work in a controlled study I remain skeptical, even when I see appearant "hits".
hankster comments on Jan 10, 2020:
I've seen this work for water lines more than once firsthand. there's no magic no Wizardry, but there's something going on about water in a line. I don't know about oil or minerals or any of the rest of that stuff, but it will work for water. I am 100% sure.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 10, 2020:
I have heard a relative did so with consistant success. This being said until it can be proven that it does work in a controlled study I remain skeptical, even when I see appearant "hits".
Why dowsing is a con:
[video.arstechnica.com]
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 10, 2020:
I have seen people do it and convence others it was real. It was very easy to get caught up in. The problem was there is no evidence it works at all.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 10, 2020:
@hankster Prayers work too according to many. "It works" is not evidence. It takes standing up to science to be evidence. Show me peer reviewed studies.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 10, 2020:
I have seen people do it and convence others it was real. It was very easy to get caught up in. The problem was there is no evidence it works at all.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 10, 2020:
@hankster Prayers work too according to many. "It works" is not evidence. It takes standing up to science to be evidence. Show me peer reviewed studies.
The test of a false god.
David1955 comments on Jan 8, 2020:
From my experience believers will generally say something like, "Yes, but MY God is real." So, being stumped, as you put it, doesn't prevent them from embracing logical absurdity and contradiction. Since religion is always based on bad history/mythology, unproven supernatural claims, and fear, I ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 10, 2020:
I agree with you. The more religious they are the less they care about anything but what they want to believe.
David1955 comments on Jan 8, 2020:
From my experience believers will generally say something like, "Yes, but MY God is real." So, being stumped, as you put it, doesn't prevent them from embracing logical absurdity and contradiction. Since religion is always based on bad history/mythology, unproven supernatural claims, and fear, I ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 10, 2020:
I agree with you. The more religious they are the less they care about anything but what they want to believe.
What is the one Truth or Method of finding the truth that you hold sacred above all others?
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 8, 2020:
I would add that "truth" is subjective; it is not fact.
To answer your question i define "truth" as fact.
What is the one method for finding fact that I hold above all others?
Science, that being the scientific method of determining fact. There is no more "true" methodology of determining ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 10, 2020:
@maturin1919 There is a time to pay attention as opposed to just trying to be right.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 8, 2020:
I would add that "truth" is subjective; it is not fact.
To answer your question i define "truth" as fact.
What is the one method for finding fact that I hold above all others?
Science, that being the scientific method of determining fact. There is no more "true" methodology of determining ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 10, 2020:
@maturin1919 There is a time to pay attention as opposed to just trying to be right.
What is the one Truth or Method of finding the truth that you hold sacred above all others?
Mb_Man comments on Jan 7, 2020:
I try to avoid the word Truth at all costs. It has a purpose, but is also has been hijacked. Everything from biblical truth to whatever red-pilled conspiracy nonsense you can find in a YouTube rabbit hole.
I prefer to stay in the realm of facts.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 9, 2020:
SO DO I!!!!!!
Mb_Man comments on Jan 7, 2020:
I try to avoid the word Truth at all costs. It has a purpose, but is also has been hijacked. Everything from biblical truth to whatever red-pilled conspiracy nonsense you can find in a YouTube rabbit hole.
I prefer to stay in the realm of facts.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 9, 2020:
SO DO I!!!!!!
What is the one Truth or Method of finding the truth that you hold sacred above all others?
afrogonalog comments on Jan 8, 2020:
Occam's Razor and the never assume or you'll make an ass out of u and me rule.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 9, 2020:
Occam's razor is a good tool for determining what may be the facts but it is a tool and not conclusive on it self.
afrogonalog comments on Jan 8, 2020:
Occam's Razor and the never assume or you'll make an ass out of u and me rule.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 9, 2020:
Occam's razor is a good tool for determining what may be the facts but it is a tool and not conclusive on it self.
What is the one Truth or Method of finding the truth that you hold sacred above all others?
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 8, 2020:
I would add that "truth" is subjective; it is not fact.
To answer your question i define "truth" as fact.
What is the one method for finding fact that I hold above all others?
Science, that being the scientific method of determining fact. There is no more "true" methodology of determining ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 9, 2020:
@maturin1919 I personally define truth as that which is factual. With theist it is commonly qhat one wishes to believe. This is why I make the distinction. There are many truths but they are not necessarily concordant with the facts. I really don't like having to make these distinctions but it ia necessary.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 8, 2020:
I would add that "truth" is subjective; it is not fact.
To answer your question i define "truth" as fact.
What is the one method for finding fact that I hold above all others?
Science, that being the scientific method of determining fact. There is no more "true" methodology of determining ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 9, 2020:
@maturin1919 I personally define truth as that which is factual. With theist it is commonly qhat one wishes to believe. This is why I make the distinction. There are many truths but they are not necessarily concordant with the facts. I really don't like having to make these distinctions but it ia necessary.
Jesus empowers this idiot to speak publicly.
Sofabeast comments on Jan 7, 2020:
What is a good mother and wife?
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 9, 2020:
@Sofabeast oops my indoctrination kinda came out. I will ask my girlfriend if I have permission to post again!
Sofabeast comments on Jan 7, 2020:
What is a good mother and wife?
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 9, 2020:
@Sofabeast oops my indoctrination kinda came out. I will ask my girlfriend if I have permission to post again!
What is the one Truth or Method of finding the truth that you hold sacred above all others?
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 8, 2020:
I would add that "truth" is subjective; it is not fact.
To answer your question i define "truth" as fact.
What is the one method for finding fact that I hold above all others?
Science, that being the scientific method of determining fact. There is no more "true" methodology of determining ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 9, 2020:
@maturin1919 The story of the little boy who cried wolf is not a factual account of concordent events. It is therefore not true or fact. The moral of the is true, it is good not to lie. The story is not factual at all but is true.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 8, 2020:
I would add that "truth" is subjective; it is not fact.
To answer your question i define "truth" as fact.
What is the one method for finding fact that I hold above all others?
Science, that being the scientific method of determining fact. There is no more "true" methodology of determining ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 9, 2020:
@maturin1919 The story of the little boy who cried wolf is not a factual account of concordent events. It is therefore not true or fact. The moral of the is true, it is good not to lie. The story is not factual at all but is true.
Omnicide - who is responsible - a new ethic for our times... [abc.net.au]
DenoPenno comments on Jan 4, 2020:
Ultimately we are responsible. Once you consider how politics plays a part the blame has to go on those who are greedy enough to extract wealth without caring about our planet. They spend large sums of money to continue holding that position. The only recourse is that the rest of us become a voice ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
We have nothing to worry about Jesus will fix it and we will all be in heaven when it happens. Actually I'm going outside to spray all tha areosol cans I have to MAKE jesus come RIGHT NOW so we don't have to worry.
DenoPenno comments on Jan 4, 2020:
Ultimately we are responsible. Once you consider how politics plays a part the blame has to go on those who are greedy enough to extract wealth without caring about our planet. They spend large sums of money to continue holding that position. The only recourse is that the rest of us become a voice ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
We have nothing to worry about Jesus will fix it and we will all be in heaven when it happens. Actually I'm going outside to spray all tha areosol cans I have to MAKE jesus come RIGHT NOW so we don't have to worry.
eliminating answers from men.............
rogerbenham comments on Jan 7, 2020:
You may block me
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
@rogerbenham Don't carre if your are one of those "bad theist"!
rogerbenham comments on Jan 7, 2020:
You may block me
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
@rogerbenham Don't carre if your are one of those "bad theist"!
eliminating answers from men.............
rogerbenham comments on Jan 7, 2020:
You may block me
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
@rogerbenham I was married when I joined. Now I am very happy with my girlfriend. I continue to do my best to contribute to the community gender is not a concern. I hope you find someone that is amazing!
rogerbenham comments on Jan 7, 2020:
You may block me
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
@rogerbenham I was married when I joined. Now I am very happy with my girlfriend. I continue to do my best to contribute to the community gender is not a concern. I hope you find someone that is amazing!
Jesus empowers this idiot to speak publicly.
Sofabeast comments on Jan 7, 2020:
What is a good mother and wife?
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
Obviously a robot. BTW you have lost good mother and wife points for thinking.
Sofabeast comments on Jan 7, 2020:
What is a good mother and wife?
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
Obviously a robot. BTW you have lost good mother and wife points for thinking.
Jesus empowers this idiot to speak publicly.
SeaGreenEyez comments on Jan 7, 2020:
I was married to someone that said "No man wants a wife smarter than himself." "Was" being the operative word.
I have an ex-boyfriend that said, "The dumb ones are easier to control, that's for sure." "Ex" being the operative word.
Neither were religious. They were just run of the mill ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
Hell Iv'e never had any desire to date anyone thst was not smarter than me! It always is interesting and they help me to push myself even more to be better! Smart girls rule!
SeaGreenEyez comments on Jan 7, 2020:
I was married to someone that said "No man wants a wife smarter than himself." "Was" being the operative word.
I have an ex-boyfriend that said, "The dumb ones are easier to control, that's for sure." "Ex" being the operative word.
Neither were religious. They were just run of the mill ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
Hell Iv'e never had any desire to date anyone thst was not smarter than me! It always is interesting and they help me to push myself even more to be better! Smart girls rule!
The test of a false god.
Fernapple comments on Jan 8, 2020:
True theists are an endangered species in the UK so I rarely meet one. But that is a really good tactic.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
You live in a country with an official religion that is not religious. I live in a "secular" country that is bat shit crazy religious. I can say that I was one of them.
Fernapple comments on Jan 8, 2020:
True theists are an endangered species in the UK so I rarely meet one. But that is a really good tactic.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
You live in a country with an official religion that is not religious. I live in a "secular" country that is bat shit crazy religious. I can say that I was one of them.
How unwise to be a Christian.
Pittocrates comments on Jan 7, 2020:
So I joined Christianity three years ago, (this is my first post) and only now am coming out of it to be the way I was before that. (I felt lost and wanted something to believe in) Everything is fine when you're on the straight and narrow. But when something goes wrong (for example I'm getting ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
I never have done this before, but from the body of your comment, I think you might very much enjoy my YouTube channel as it deals with these very things. My channel name is compelledunbeliever.
Pittocrates comments on Jan 7, 2020:
So I joined Christianity three years ago, (this is my first post) and only now am coming out of it to be the way I was before that. (I felt lost and wanted something to believe in) Everything is fine when you're on the straight and narrow. But when something goes wrong (for example I'm getting ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
I never have done this before, but from the body of your comment, I think you might very much enjoy my YouTube channel as it deals with these very things. My channel name is compelledunbeliever.
Why would any female want to follow a religion that makes them a second class human?
VictoriaNotes comments on Jan 5, 2020:
Why would any male want to follow a religion that makes females a second class human? Indoctrination starts in early childhood which is a time of crucial brain development.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
Hell yes @VictoriaNotes ! You always point out the obvious! The problem is many of us don't actually see it. Thank You!
VictoriaNotes comments on Jan 5, 2020:
Why would any male want to follow a religion that makes females a second class human? Indoctrination starts in early childhood which is a time of crucial brain development.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
Hell yes @VictoriaNotes ! You always point out the obvious! The problem is many of us don't actually see it. Thank You!
What is the one Truth or Method of finding the truth that you hold sacred above all others?
JFishburnVelazq comments on Jan 8, 2020:
All truths tend to turn out to be coherent truths so I follow the coherence method in finding truth.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
Many things such as the plot of Harry Potter do follow and are coherent. This is obviously fiction. Science and Logic applied without fallacies is the methods that I prefer for determining what is real.
JFishburnVelazq comments on Jan 8, 2020:
All truths tend to turn out to be coherent truths so I follow the coherence method in finding truth.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
Many things such as the plot of Harry Potter do follow and are coherent. This is obviously fiction. Science and Logic applied without fallacies is the methods that I prefer for determining what is real.
Hi.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 8, 2020:
I shared the same fear. When my x-wife found out I did not believe she told everyone she could to shame me. It did not work. I now have an atheist a tattoo on my forearm and a atheist oriented YouTube channel. I am ver much out and to my surprise I have had very little pushback. Much of it is I am ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
@Jolanta Yeah we did get a divorce. I am lucky to have found a woman that understands how the indoctrination affected me and is supportive of my desire to help others escape religious cults.
DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 8, 2020:
I shared the same fear. When my x-wife found out I did not believe she told everyone she could to shame me. It did not work. I now have an atheist a tattoo on my forearm and a atheist oriented YouTube channel. I am ver much out and to my surprise I have had very little pushback. Much of it is I am ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
@Jolanta Yeah we did get a divorce. I am lucky to have found a woman that understands how the indoctrination affected me and is supportive of my desire to help others escape religious cults.
Hi.
Musicmanmike comments on Jan 8, 2020:
I live in a small town in rural Manitoba, before I grew some balls I allowed my wife to rule me and I endured church for some 25 years or more, 15 in this desolate place.
Now I'm single here but yes many organizations here are run by Boards with locals who encourage their idiot friends to join, ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
When I first came out, I spent the balence of my social encounters online. My girlfriend now has alot of friends that are not religious. It is refreshing to be accepted among people that are not close minded haters.
Musicmanmike comments on Jan 8, 2020:
I live in a small town in rural Manitoba, before I grew some balls I allowed my wife to rule me and I endured church for some 25 years or more, 15 in this desolate place.
Now I'm single here but yes many organizations here are run by Boards with locals who encourage their idiot friends to join, ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
When I first came out, I spent the balence of my social encounters online. My girlfriend now has alot of friends that are not religious. It is refreshing to be accepted among people that are not close minded haters.
Hi.
PhoebeCat comments on Jan 8, 2020:
I faked it so my mom would shut up. The woman was a professional victim of ungrateful children. Avoidance was my best means of coping while I lived in her house. Once I was out of there, everything changed.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
My kids had the same problem with their mother. I have seen it and feel for you.
PhoebeCat comments on Jan 8, 2020:
I faked it so my mom would shut up. The woman was a professional victim of ungrateful children. Avoidance was my best means of coping while I lived in her house. Once I was out of there, everything changed.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
My kids had the same problem with their mother. I have seen it and feel for you.
I am often told that god is unknowable.
sterlingdean comments on Jan 8, 2020:
It's a blanket defense most religions deploy when faced with the inherent illogic and internal inconsistencies that they can't explain away. It's always something like 'God works in mysterious ways'.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
The mystery is why he can do anything man can't do, yet doesn't, and cant do anything that man can do. God never fixed a squeaky door in any of his "houses".
sterlingdean comments on Jan 8, 2020:
It's a blanket defense most religions deploy when faced with the inherent illogic and internal inconsistencies that they can't explain away. It's always something like 'God works in mysterious ways'.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 8, 2020:
The mystery is why he can do anything man can't do, yet doesn't, and cant do anything that man can do. God never fixed a squeaky door in any of his "houses".
The more time I spend on this site, the more I realize that atheists know WAYYYYY more about ...
skado comments on Jan 3, 2020:
My experience here says most (not all) members here were at least raised in religious homes. Many were practicing adults for a while.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 4, 2020:
There are very few atheist that were not religious in the YouTube community.
skado comments on Jan 3, 2020:
My experience here says most (not all) members here were at least raised in religious homes. Many were practicing adults for a while.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 4, 2020:
There are very few atheist that were not religious in the YouTube community.
“I’m not perfect, I’m just forgiven” is the most enabling statement ever made!
Christians...
rogueflyer comments on Jan 2, 2020:
Religious principals are generally in line with what makes their particularly organization attractive to potential recruits. Doesn't have to be morally correct or even in line with their other principals or whats best for society as a whole. Hypocrisy is not in their vocabulary.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 2, 2020:
Oddly enough, hypocrisy is the last thing that would come to their minds. I say this a former wacko!
rogueflyer comments on Jan 2, 2020:
Religious principals are generally in line with what makes their particularly organization attractive to potential recruits. Doesn't have to be morally correct or even in line with their other principals or whats best for society as a whole. Hypocrisy is not in their vocabulary.
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 2, 2020:
Oddly enough, hypocrisy is the last thing that would come to their minds. I say this a former wacko!
“I’m not perfect, I’m just forgiven” is the most enabling statement ever made!
Christians...
JackPedigo comments on Jan 2, 2020:
My first wife told me that she knew she was weak and often hurt others but god made her this way and understands so it's okay. The only thing that seems to have changed her is getting older.
The founders of this country was part of the enlightenment movement and followed deism. The basic idea ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 2, 2020:
Thank you for your kind words.
JackPedigo comments on Jan 2, 2020:
My first wife told me that she knew she was weak and often hurt others but god made her this way and understands so it's okay. The only thing that seems to have changed her is getting older.
The founders of this country was part of the enlightenment movement and followed deism. The basic idea ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 2, 2020:
Thank you for your kind words.
“I’m not perfect, I’m just forgiven” is the most enabling statement ever made!
Christians...
redbai comments on Jan 2, 2020:
You make some excellent points. The "forgiven by Jesus" thing is nothing but a crock and allows for just about any "forgiven person" to harm anyone.
When I hear that I ask, "Forgiven by who? If it's not the person you harmed then what good is it? Sounds more like a cowards way out of ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 2, 2020:
Thank you for helping me to develop my thoughts further. Now I would add that "just forgiven" is to relinquish reponsability.
redbai comments on Jan 2, 2020:
You make some excellent points. The "forgiven by Jesus" thing is nothing but a crock and allows for just about any "forgiven person" to harm anyone.
When I hear that I ask, "Forgiven by who? If it's not the person you harmed then what good is it? Sounds more like a cowards way out of ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 2, 2020:
Thank you for helping me to develop my thoughts further. Now I would add that "just forgiven" is to relinquish reponsability.
“I’m not perfect, I’m just forgiven” is the most enabling statement ever made!
Christians...
Freedompath comments on Jan 2, 2020:
I have always hated this pronouncement, about ‘forgiveness,’ as ‘I am not perfect,’ but I have ‘been washed in the blood of Jesus, and saved.’
This type person, is really not connected to his own nature! It is no wonder he can make such a statement! His imaginary ‘savior’ has ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 2, 2020:
So well said that I might have a secret crush on you now! Shh, don't tell anyone.
Freedompath comments on Jan 2, 2020:
I have always hated this pronouncement, about ‘forgiveness,’ as ‘I am not perfect,’ but I have ‘been washed in the blood of Jesus, and saved.’
This type person, is really not connected to his own nature! It is no wonder he can make such a statement! His imaginary ‘savior’ has ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 2, 2020:
So well said that I might have a secret crush on you now! Shh, don't tell anyone.
“I’m not perfect, I’m just forgiven” is the most enabling statement ever made!
Christians...
Geoffrey51 comments on Jan 2, 2020:
I’ve never really understood what ‘perfect’ means. Sounds like a bit of a weasel word. Throw it into a sentence to disarm.
‘I’m not perfect’ implies humility or is that misguided piety.
‘I am perfect’ implies arrogance rather than self-confidence.
You can’t win. The ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 2, 2020:
Lucky I'm here to explain what perfect is. I have been telling my children that I AM PERFECT for 20 years. So just aks them what I am like! And I'm modest too.
I really like the way you explained it. Spot on!
Geoffrey51 comments on Jan 2, 2020:
I’ve never really understood what ‘perfect’ means. Sounds like a bit of a weasel word. Throw it into a sentence to disarm.
‘I’m not perfect’ implies humility or is that misguided piety.
‘I am perfect’ implies arrogance rather than self-confidence.
You can’t win. The ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 2, 2020:
Lucky I'm here to explain what perfect is. I have been telling my children that I AM PERFECT for 20 years. So just aks them what I am like! And I'm modest too.
I really like the way you explained it. Spot on!
“I’m not perfect, I’m just forgiven” is the most enabling statement ever made!
Christians...
Joanne comments on Jan 2, 2020:
I watched the Netflix documentary on Ted Bundy (who had been raised as a Christian and his family attended church regularly). Before he was put to death, he was visited by James Dobson who made a public statement that he thought Bundy seemed to be truly sorry for what he had done.
So, according ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 2, 2020:
The thought of the VICTIMS being believed to go to hell while the perp gets a get out of Hell free card is sickning. I do mean physically.
Joanne comments on Jan 2, 2020:
I watched the Netflix documentary on Ted Bundy (who had been raised as a Christian and his family attended church regularly). Before he was put to death, he was visited by James Dobson who made a public statement that he thought Bundy seemed to be truly sorry for what he had done.
So, according ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 2, 2020:
The thought of the VICTIMS being believed to go to hell while the perp gets a get out of Hell free card is sickning. I do mean physically.
How Many Here are COMPLETE ATHEISTS (as I am)?
ResponsiblyFree comments on Dec 30, 2019:
None of the responses here have addressed the propositions by Larken Rose which are:
1. Government is a Religion/God. That is, people (Aka “Citizens”) BELIEVE in Government as a Morally Legitimate Authority which has the Right to Rule/Control them just as people (Aka “Religious ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 1, 2020:
@ResponsiblyFree I would really like to but you post makes no sennse to me, that is why I suggest you put the quetion to Steve. You will have a great conversation I am sure. Your post simply does not follow in the most remote of streatching credulity.
ResponsiblyFree comments on Dec 30, 2019:
None of the responses here have addressed the propositions by Larken Rose which are:
1. Government is a Religion/God. That is, people (Aka “Citizens”) BELIEVE in Government as a Morally Legitimate Authority which has the Right to Rule/Control them just as people (Aka “Religious ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 1, 2020:
@ResponsiblyFree I would really like to but you post makes no sennse to me, that is why I suggest you put the quetion to Steve. You will have a great conversation I am sure. Your post simply does not follow in the most remote of streatching credulity.
How Many Here are COMPLETE ATHEISTS (as I am)?
ResponsiblyFree comments on Dec 30, 2019:
None of the responses here have addressed the propositions by Larken Rose which are:
1. Government is a Religion/God. That is, people (Aka “Citizens”) BELIEVE in Government as a Morally Legitimate Authority which has the Right to Rule/Control them just as people (Aka “Religious ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 1, 2020:
I think you should take this up with Steve Mcrae. https://www.facebook.com/steveaskanything?ref=br_rs
ResponsiblyFree comments on Dec 30, 2019:
None of the responses here have addressed the propositions by Larken Rose which are:
1. Government is a Religion/God. That is, people (Aka “Citizens”) BELIEVE in Government as a Morally Legitimate Authority which has the Right to Rule/Control them just as people (Aka “Religious ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Jan 1, 2020:
I think you should take this up with Steve Mcrae. https://www.facebook.com/steveaskanything?ref=br_rs
I am often told that god is unknowable.
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 20, 2019:
nice, imo. But see that i can say that i know *of* Yah, even though i cannot say (even according to Scripture) that i *know* Him.
an obvious corollary would be that even a scientist would estimate that we are only aware of slightly less than 5% of what we know must exist; recently up from about ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 21, 2019:
@bbyrd009 Attributed to Soloman. "With much knowledge comes much sorrow"
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 20, 2019:
nice, imo. But see that i can say that i know *of* Yah, even though i cannot say (even according to Scripture) that i *know* Him.
an obvious corollary would be that even a scientist would estimate that we are only aware of slightly less than 5% of what we know must exist; recently up from about ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 21, 2019:
@bbyrd009 Attributed to Soloman. "With much knowledge comes much sorrow"
Mock religions: What are your opinions on that?
AmyLF comments on Dec 20, 2019:
I don't bother. My job is taking care of me and mine, not belittling or mocking others for their beliefs. People should be free to believe or disbelieve as they so choose. Now if that crosses over to trying to push it onto me to believe their way then all bets are off.
I do try to reason with ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 21, 2019:
Ramen! My you be touched by his noodley appendage!
AmyLF comments on Dec 20, 2019:
I don't bother. My job is taking care of me and mine, not belittling or mocking others for their beliefs. People should be free to believe or disbelieve as they so choose. Now if that crosses over to trying to push it onto me to believe their way then all bets are off.
I do try to reason with ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 21, 2019:
Ramen! My you be touched by his noodley appendage!
I am often told that god is unknowable.
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 20, 2019:
nice, imo. But see that i can say that i know *of* Yah, even though i cannot say (even according to Scripture) that i *know* Him.
an obvious corollary would be that even a scientist would estimate that we are only aware of slightly less than 5% of what we know must exist; recently up from about ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 20, 2019:
There is alot outthere not to know. Knowledege comes with a price. The more we discover the more that we understand we know almost nothing.
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 20, 2019:
nice, imo. But see that i can say that i know *of* Yah, even though i cannot say (even according to Scripture) that i *know* Him.
an obvious corollary would be that even a scientist would estimate that we are only aware of slightly less than 5% of what we know must exist; recently up from about ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 20, 2019:
There is alot outthere not to know. Knowledege comes with a price. The more we discover the more that we understand we know almost nothing.
I am often told that god is unknowable.
Word comments on Dec 19, 2019:
I created Taco God so a person could know themselves and believe in themselves. And put an end once and for all t illogical atheism. This is not to imply that a person must eat a taco to believe in themselves, a person can very well believe in themselves with out eating a taco.
Whereas, the ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 20, 2019:
@Word Atheism is not opposition to anything. It is an absence of belief in a god.
An anti-theist is one that is against religion, not a god.
As you are a man you can create you own god concept with this I agree.
You have posted too much to respond to in a cohesive way in order to have a conversation that anyone can follow. You have not presented any evidence for a god and have consistantly inposed your wrong beliefs and understansings on me. If you would like to understand more about god and atheism subscribe to my youtube channel. Compelledunbeliever.
Word comments on Dec 19, 2019:
I created Taco God so a person could know themselves and believe in themselves. And put an end once and for all t illogical atheism. This is not to imply that a person must eat a taco to believe in themselves, a person can very well believe in themselves with out eating a taco.
Whereas, the ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 20, 2019:
@Word Atheism is not opposition to anything. It is an absence of belief in a god.
An anti-theist is one that is against religion, not a god.
As you are a man you can create you own god concept with this I agree.
You have posted too much to respond to in a cohesive way in order to have a conversation that anyone can follow. You have not presented any evidence for a god and have consistantly inposed your wrong beliefs and understansings on me. If you would like to understand more about god and atheism subscribe to my youtube channel. Compelledunbeliever.
I am often told that god is unknowable.
Word comments on Dec 19, 2019:
I created Taco God so a person could know themselves and believe in themselves. And put an end once and for all t illogical atheism. This is not to imply that a person must eat a taco to believe in themselves, a person can very well believe in themselves with out eating a taco.
Whereas, the ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 20, 2019:
@Word Witings that people beileved in god is not evidence for the existance of god.
Word comments on Dec 19, 2019:
I created Taco God so a person could know themselves and believe in themselves. And put an end once and for all t illogical atheism. This is not to imply that a person must eat a taco to believe in themselves, a person can very well believe in themselves with out eating a taco.
Whereas, the ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 20, 2019:
@Word Witings that people beileved in god is not evidence for the existance of god.
1 Million Moms, is freaking out over a commercial showing two people kissing
DavidLaDeau comments on Dec 17, 2019:
The commercial reflects the realities of life. A reflection of reality is not an agenda at all. It is a reflection of guess what reality. There will always be those that reject reality. One great conduit of the rejection of reality is religion.
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 20, 2019:
@heymoe2001 LAMO!
DavidLaDeau comments on Dec 17, 2019:
The commercial reflects the realities of life. A reflection of reality is not an agenda at all. It is a reflection of guess what reality. There will always be those that reject reality. One great conduit of the rejection of reality is religion.
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 20, 2019:
@heymoe2001 LAMO!
I am often told that god is unknowable.
Word comments on Dec 19, 2019:
I created Taco God so a person could know themselves and believe in themselves. And put an end once and for all t illogical atheism. This is not to imply that a person must eat a taco to believe in themselves, a person can very well believe in themselves with out eating a taco.
Whereas, the ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 20, 2019:
@Word Helping another does not mean one is sane or not in need of mental health. It appears that you may not be in touch with reality. It concerns me. I know you will reject my concerns but It is my hope that you do seek help.
Word comments on Dec 19, 2019:
I created Taco God so a person could know themselves and believe in themselves. And put an end once and for all t illogical atheism. This is not to imply that a person must eat a taco to believe in themselves, a person can very well believe in themselves with out eating a taco.
Whereas, the ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 20, 2019:
@Word Helping another does not mean one is sane or not in need of mental health. It appears that you may not be in touch with reality. It concerns me. I know you will reject my concerns but It is my hope that you do seek help.
I am often told that god is unknowable.
Word comments on Dec 19, 2019:
I created Taco God so a person could know themselves and believe in themselves. And put an end once and for all t illogical atheism. This is not to imply that a person must eat a taco to believe in themselves, a person can very well believe in themselves with out eating a taco.
Whereas, the ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 20, 2019:
@Word Please pay close attention. Atheism does not state that NO GOD exist, Your premise is wrong. It simply state that I do not believe there is a God. If you do believe there is a god then present the evidence. Do not put words into my mouth that did not utter. Such behavior is lying and unbecoming.
If one god does exist then you must show that it does in order to prove that unbelief is wrong. You have failed to do so. It appears you are more concerned about being right than admitting the facts.
Word comments on Dec 19, 2019:
I created Taco God so a person could know themselves and believe in themselves. And put an end once and for all t illogical atheism. This is not to imply that a person must eat a taco to believe in themselves, a person can very well believe in themselves with out eating a taco.
Whereas, the ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 20, 2019:
@Word Please pay close attention. Atheism does not state that NO GOD exist, Your premise is wrong. It simply state that I do not believe there is a God. If you do believe there is a god then present the evidence. Do not put words into my mouth that did not utter. Such behavior is lying and unbecoming.
If one god does exist then you must show that it does in order to prove that unbelief is wrong. You have failed to do so. It appears you are more concerned about being right than admitting the facts.
I am often told that god is unknowable.
AdrianDiadato4 comments on Dec 19, 2019:
When they say unknowable they probably mean unfalsifiable
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 20, 2019:
Well as good as a thought as that is, I doubt that most put that much thought into it.
AdrianDiadato4 comments on Dec 19, 2019:
When they say unknowable they probably mean unfalsifiable
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 20, 2019:
Well as good as a thought as that is, I doubt that most put that much thought into it.
I am often told that god is unknowable.
AnneWimsey comments on Dec 19, 2019:
You need new friends.
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 20, 2019:
Will you be my friend?
AnneWimsey comments on Dec 19, 2019:
You need new friends.
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 20, 2019:
Will you be my friend?
1 Million Moms, is freaking out over a commercial showing two people kissing
DavidLaDeau comments on Dec 17, 2019:
The commercial reflects the realities of life. A reflection of reality is not an agenda at all. It is a reflection of guess what reality. There will always be those that reject reality. One great conduit of the rejection of reality is religion.
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
@heymoe2001 This is true. they represent a small minority and should be ignored.
DavidLaDeau comments on Dec 17, 2019:
The commercial reflects the realities of life. A reflection of reality is not an agenda at all. It is a reflection of guess what reality. There will always be those that reject reality. One great conduit of the rejection of reality is religion.
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
@heymoe2001 This is true. they represent a small minority and should be ignored.
I am often told that god is unknowable.
Word comments on Dec 19, 2019:
I created Taco God so a person could know themselves and believe in themselves. And put an end once and for all t illogical atheism. This is not to imply that a person must eat a taco to believe in themselves, a person can very well believe in themselves with out eating a taco.
Whereas, the ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
@Word If you believe that you are a god and it is perceived by said psychiatrist that your delusion may cause you to harm others said psychiatrist is oath bound to institutionalize you. I hope that is not the case. Though the more you continue, the more I am concerned. I would recommend a visit to a qualified mental health provider.
Word comments on Dec 19, 2019:
I created Taco God so a person could know themselves and believe in themselves. And put an end once and for all t illogical atheism. This is not to imply that a person must eat a taco to believe in themselves, a person can very well believe in themselves with out eating a taco.
Whereas, the ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
@Word If you believe that you are a god and it is perceived by said psychiatrist that your delusion may cause you to harm others said psychiatrist is oath bound to institutionalize you. I hope that is not the case. Though the more you continue, the more I am concerned. I would recommend a visit to a qualified mental health provider.
I am often told that god is unknowable.
Word comments on Dec 19, 2019:
I created Taco God so a person could know themselves and believe in themselves. And put an end once and for all t illogical atheism. This is not to imply that a person must eat a taco to believe in themselves, a person can very well believe in themselves with out eating a taco.
Whereas, the ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
@Word I do not have or believe in a god. I simply respond to others definition of a god such as your taco god. I do not believe in your taco god, therefore I am a taco god atheist. It is really that simple.
Word comments on Dec 19, 2019:
I created Taco God so a person could know themselves and believe in themselves. And put an end once and for all t illogical atheism. This is not to imply that a person must eat a taco to believe in themselves, a person can very well believe in themselves with out eating a taco.
Whereas, the ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
@Word I do not have or believe in a god. I simply respond to others definition of a god such as your taco god. I do not believe in your taco god, therefore I am a taco god atheist. It is really that simple.
"You shouldn't judge people!" I have often heard this from my Christian friends.
Triphid comments on Dec 19, 2019:
I tend to think that one of the examples of irony would be what happened with 'Evangeloon' neighbor in mid-winter 2013.
He was erecting a structure made up of full length railway sleepers ( railways
ties in the U.S. I think) whilst wearing his usual footwear, i.e, soft and unprotective canvas ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
@Triphid Actually I have used many of them at my farm. I actually was being more philosophical.
Triphid comments on Dec 19, 2019:
I tend to think that one of the examples of irony would be what happened with 'Evangeloon' neighbor in mid-winter 2013.
He was erecting a structure made up of full length railway sleepers ( railways
ties in the U.S. I think) whilst wearing his usual footwear, i.e, soft and unprotective canvas ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
@Triphid Actually I have used many of them at my farm. I actually was being more philosophical.
I am often told that god is unknowable.
Word comments on Dec 19, 2019:
I created Taco God so a person could know themselves and believe in themselves. And put an end once and for all t illogical atheism. This is not to imply that a person must eat a taco to believe in themselves, a person can very well believe in themselves with out eating a taco.
Whereas, the ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
Tacos are real and can be proven to exist. Name calling is not the solution. Evidence is. There is no evidence for a god therefore, I do not believe there is a god. There is simply a no more solid or logical position to have. I will not bother to pick apart your argument any further as it has already been proven fallacious.
Word comments on Dec 19, 2019:
I created Taco God so a person could know themselves and believe in themselves. And put an end once and for all t illogical atheism. This is not to imply that a person must eat a taco to believe in themselves, a person can very well believe in themselves with out eating a taco.
Whereas, the ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
Tacos are real and can be proven to exist. Name calling is not the solution. Evidence is. There is no evidence for a god therefore, I do not believe there is a god. There is simply a no more solid or logical position to have. I will not bother to pick apart your argument any further as it has already been proven fallacious.
I am bemused that people would talk so much about religion, mostly Christianity, on here.
DavidLaDeau comments on Dec 19, 2019:
Take a look at this video that I made recently. This is why I am concerned about theism. I don't think you will have the same opinion when you have finished it.
https://youtu.be/yt0d0lq9oRA
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
@Archeus_Lore, @Word Wow! what a story! I am glad things are better for you!
DavidLaDeau comments on Dec 19, 2019:
Take a look at this video that I made recently. This is why I am concerned about theism. I don't think you will have the same opinion when you have finished it.
https://youtu.be/yt0d0lq9oRA
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
@Archeus_Lore, @Word Wow! what a story! I am glad things are better for you!
I am bemused that people would talk so much about religion, mostly Christianity, on here.
DavidLaDeau comments on Dec 19, 2019:
Take a look at this video that I made recently. This is why I am concerned about theism. I don't think you will have the same opinion when you have finished it.
https://youtu.be/yt0d0lq9oRA
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
@Archeus_Lore, @Word Psychology is a VERY important field. It is very young and in the United Sates at least it needs to grow in the area of religion rather than ignoring it. That is not to say all in the field do so only that hyper religiousosity is not recognized and it needs to be take into account that religion can be a group delusion that is taught. Thank You for sharing!
DavidLaDeau comments on Dec 19, 2019:
Take a look at this video that I made recently. This is why I am concerned about theism. I don't think you will have the same opinion when you have finished it.
https://youtu.be/yt0d0lq9oRA
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
@Archeus_Lore, @Word Psychology is a VERY important field. It is very young and in the United Sates at least it needs to grow in the area of religion rather than ignoring it. That is not to say all in the field do so only that hyper religiousosity is not recognized and it needs to be take into account that religion can be a group delusion that is taught. Thank You for sharing!
"If you don't believe in god, what religion are you?
DavidLaDeau comments on Dec 19, 2019:
I once spent about an hour explaining evolution to my mother. After patiently listening she responded "I'm not a monkey." I said "You are right you are an ape."
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
@Larry68Feminist Unfortinately she is 78 and has been indoctrinated as a small child as I was. She makes the same mistake that I did and most Christians do. That is reading into the Bible whaat is not there and glossing over the difficult passages with (God has not prepared me to understnd this yet but it is good and is in no way conflicting or evil),
There is much more attributed to the Bible than is actually in the Bible.
DavidLaDeau comments on Dec 19, 2019:
I once spent about an hour explaining evolution to my mother. After patiently listening she responded "I'm not a monkey." I said "You are right you are an ape."
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
@Larry68Feminist Unfortinately she is 78 and has been indoctrinated as a small child as I was. She makes the same mistake that I did and most Christians do. That is reading into the Bible whaat is not there and glossing over the difficult passages with (God has not prepared me to understnd this yet but it is good and is in no way conflicting or evil),
There is much more attributed to the Bible than is actually in the Bible.
The older I get the more irate I get against the whole concept of an all powerful god.
DavidLaDeau comments on Dec 19, 2019:
If an all powerful god did exist it is clear it does not interact in the world at all. So it does not matter if it did exist.
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
@Aristippus I agree with what you understood perhaps from my lack of clarity. I was commenting only on the existance of a God not the dogma or moralities associated with the god concept. Thank you to help me to clarify!
DavidLaDeau comments on Dec 19, 2019:
If an all powerful god did exist it is clear it does not interact in the world at all. So it does not matter if it did exist.
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
@Aristippus I agree with what you understood perhaps from my lack of clarity. I was commenting only on the existance of a God not the dogma or moralities associated with the god concept. Thank you to help me to clarify!
I am often told that god is unknowable.
Geoffrey51 comments on Dec 19, 2019:
Probably not worth the trouble trying to explore that route.
What are you told about this unknowable god?
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 Lets write that book!
Geoffrey51 comments on Dec 19, 2019:
Probably not worth the trouble trying to explore that route.
What are you told about this unknowable god?
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 Lets write that book!
I am often told that god is unknowable.
JohnnyQB comments on Dec 19, 2019:
Ha, yes this is a common go to for them, they usually get to the unknowable part after they get cornered with simple reason. They just didn't realize the bigger corner they have now put themselves into with that claim ha !
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
And, and, and, well because God! Gotcha atheist!
JohnnyQB comments on Dec 19, 2019:
Ha, yes this is a common go to for them, they usually get to the unknowable part after they get cornered with simple reason. They just didn't realize the bigger corner they have now put themselves into with that claim ha !
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
And, and, and, well because God! Gotcha atheist!
I am often told that god is unknowable.
Bn4fE5 comments on Dec 19, 2019:
Circular logic on their part? "You just have to believe."
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
Fake it till you make it! So lets try applying this concept to science. Wait a minute, those like Ken Ham actually do.
Bn4fE5 comments on Dec 19, 2019:
Circular logic on their part? "You just have to believe."
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
Fake it till you make it! So lets try applying this concept to science. Wait a minute, those like Ken Ham actually do.
I am bemused that people would talk so much about religion, mostly Christianity, on here.
VictoriaNotes comments on Dec 19, 2019:
*" I suppose that religious discussions are from people who are less sure of a lack of a god."*
That's not the only reason religion is discussed here, especially Christianity. Ask any woman and those in the LGBT community why this topic is often brought up. It's one of the reasons why Freedom ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
Gosh @VictoriaNotes: when you respond to post it saves me alot of time thank you!
VictoriaNotes comments on Dec 19, 2019:
*" I suppose that religious discussions are from people who are less sure of a lack of a god."*
That's not the only reason religion is discussed here, especially Christianity. Ask any woman and those in the LGBT community why this topic is often brought up. It's one of the reasons why Freedom ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
Gosh @VictoriaNotes: when you respond to post it saves me alot of time thank you!
It takes more than an Atheist to over throw over obiedience authority of Religion.
AlanMargu comments on Dec 19, 2019:
Atheism isn't a system, such that if there were a power vacuum, atheists would band together and impose. All it is is the rejection of supernatural deistic or theistic claims.
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
Well said and welcome!
AlanMargu comments on Dec 19, 2019:
Atheism isn't a system, such that if there were a power vacuum, atheists would band together and impose. All it is is the rejection of supernatural deistic or theistic claims.
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
Well said and welcome!
I’m new to this site and I find it interesting that people who are religious are here.
DavidLaDeau comments on Dec 18, 2019:
I actually would like any information based on fact that would "convert" me. If God was real it would be very important to know about. As it is there is simply no evidence for any God. A test of a god that does not exist is that it requires faith to beilieve in said god. There is no god that does ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
@InkedMaiden If they are here they have doubts or are so convenced of their delusion that they have very little chance of coming to reason.
DavidLaDeau comments on Dec 18, 2019:
I actually would like any information based on fact that would "convert" me. If God was real it would be very important to know about. As it is there is simply no evidence for any God. A test of a god that does not exist is that it requires faith to beilieve in said god. There is no god that does ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
@InkedMaiden If they are here they have doubts or are so convenced of their delusion that they have very little chance of coming to reason.
I am a 100 % sure atheist! The Bible is a fairy tale! Try to imagine an omnipotent being (God) who...
David1955 comments on Dec 19, 2019:
Good to have you here amongst the atheists.
It does seem to me that since that the old religious claim, "Someone had to create the universe, you can't get something from nothing" has been destroyed by science, there's nothing left for them to hang on to, other than their inner child attachment ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
@David1955 I just about pissed myself laughing! One must be careful of ones commentary!
David1955 comments on Dec 19, 2019:
Good to have you here amongst the atheists.
It does seem to me that since that the old religious claim, "Someone had to create the universe, you can't get something from nothing" has been destroyed by science, there's nothing left for them to hang on to, other than their inner child attachment ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
@David1955 I just about pissed myself laughing! One must be careful of ones commentary!
Hell-- that awful place that we're all told to be scared of.
Geoffrey51 comments on Dec 18, 2019:
Check out Dante’s Inferno. A masterful work which much of the medieval art of Hell is based, bearing in mind he is drawing a lot on Greek myth..
If they don’t know of Dante, they have no idea of the source of the visual terror they are buying into.
Bearing in mind it is a piece of its ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 Thank you very much! Reading them in their orginal form was....well....HELL!
Geoffrey51 comments on Dec 18, 2019:
Check out Dante’s Inferno. A masterful work which much of the medieval art of Hell is based, bearing in mind he is drawing a lot on Greek myth..
If they don’t know of Dante, they have no idea of the source of the visual terror they are buying into.
Bearing in mind it is a piece of its ...
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 Thank you very much! Reading them in their orginal form was....well....HELL!
"You shouldn't judge people!" I have often heard this from my Christian friends.
Storm1752 comments on Dec 19, 2019:
"I hate the sin, not the sinner."
And they get to decide what the 'sin' is.
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
Sin and evil in the Bible share the two main meanings.
1) that which causes harm
2) that which pisses off God
Storm1752 comments on Dec 19, 2019:
"I hate the sin, not the sinner."
And they get to decide what the 'sin' is.
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
Sin and evil in the Bible share the two main meanings.
1) that which causes harm
2) that which pisses off God
I am often told that god is unknowable.
RiverRick comments on Dec 19, 2019:
Wwww wait. I thought they all had "Personal Relationships" with god?
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
I grew up with the persoal relationship thing. I don't talk about it much, but as a child adults constantly came up with elaberate stories about how they interacted with god. It made me feel worse as I was not good enough for god. Eventually it led to a sucide attempt at age 14. I made a video about it on YouTube Titled How God almost killed me: a true story.
RiverRick comments on Dec 19, 2019:
Wwww wait. I thought they all had "Personal Relationships" with god?
DavidLaDeau replies on Dec 19, 2019:
I grew up with the persoal relationship thing. I don't talk about it much, but as a child adults constantly came up with elaberate stories about how they interacted with god. It made me feel worse as I was not good enough for god. Eventually it led to a sucide attempt at age 14. I made a video about it on YouTube Titled How God almost killed me: a true story.
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