This likely would have avoided the shit storm we're in.

Druvius comments on Jul 20, 2018:

And we're in the mess were in because Clinton ran an arrogant uninspired campaign and was unable to lead her party to victory over Trump and his clown car campaign. If she had climbed down from her entitled high horse and reached out to Sander's supporters after she had the nomination, she'd be the ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 21, 2018:

@JustLynnie no, Trump is the result of managed perception forced onto us by tribal politics and the media they use against us. While you're seeing it as one is better than the other, towing your party line, both of them are together working against us. Please see https://consortiumnews.com/2014/12/28/the-victory-of-perception-management/ Then https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2017/12/16/dems-and-gop-work-together-like-a-boxers-1-2-punch-to-knock-you-out/ "Out Of The Illusion Group"

This likely would have avoided the shit storm we're in.

Druvius comments on Jul 20, 2018:

And we're in the mess were in because Clinton ran an arrogant uninspired campaign and was unable to lead her party to victory over Trump and his clown car campaign. If she had climbed down from her entitled high horse and reached out to Sander's supporters after she had the nomination, she'd be the ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 21, 2018:

@Switchcraft Wiki Leaks got a good start on that for us. You missed the leaks they provided us? Ever hear of Libya? It was an illegal act. Just because she and Obama got away with it doesn't make it any less so. Clinton is every bit a vile person Trump is. I challenge you to spend some time learning her history. Hillary Clinton's Business of Corporate Shilling & War Making https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUeHZMfQ-Uc

This likely would have avoided the shit storm we're in.

Surfpirate comments on Jul 20, 2018:

So really just Bernie and Stein to choose from. :)

William_Mary replies on Jul 21, 2018:

@Surfpirate during a period of one of the worse times in our history while we were financially supporting and arming terrorist groups, engaged in a near complete destruction of what was the largest city in Syria, Aleppo, at that time, do I need to remind you what he said when he was asked what he would do about it? With our government, military, and CIA involved in creating these groups to create a false civil uprising, along with these weapons and terrorist eventually taking them to join ISIS killing thousands of innocent civilians and using them for shields, a presidential candidate by all means needs to know what Aleppo is. It's not an is! It's a where! So when a potential presidential candidate ask, "what is Aleppo" quite frankly, he should have been shot in the head right where he sat! All those factors I mention above in this issue are basic knowledge for a presidential candidate to know of going on around the world. This case was the main story line and had been for weeks. And his ignorance to it was as loud as the bombs doing the killing and the children screaming and crying. This didn't make Gary Johnson go crawl in a hole denouncing his candidacy as it should have. A week later he crawled out onto another news stage and went deer eyed when asked to name a world leader he admired or liked. He was so god dam stuttering paralyzed his running mate sitting beside him had to start flapping his lips. And those that continued to support him then are the very reason we have what we have today. And will have after the next election cycle. Cognitive dissonance and managed perception. The Victory of ‘Perception Management’ https://consortiumnews.com/2014/12/28/the-victory-of-perception-management/

To be totally fair...

azzow2 comments on Jul 20, 2018:

I have always like Ralph Nader he had made several run at the presidency. I always have wondered if he had chosen an electable party would he have won?

William_Mary replies on Jul 20, 2018:

The Green Party is electable. All it takes is for people to step out of the 2 party illusion of managed perception. The public does what they've been brainwashed to do. The Victory of ‘Perception Management’ https://consortiumnews.com/2014/12/28/the-victory-of-perception-management/

This likely would have avoided the shit storm we're in.

Surfpirate comments on Jul 20, 2018:

So really just Bernie and Stein to choose from. :)

William_Mary replies on Jul 20, 2018:

@SkotlandSkye Gary Johnson, the other Trump? He's so ignorant to world politics he'd made Trump look brilliant.

This likely would have avoided the shit storm we're in.

Surfpirate comments on Jul 20, 2018:

So really just Bernie and Stein to choose from. :)

William_Mary replies on Jul 20, 2018:

Bernie works for the democrats now. So, seriously?

This likely would have avoided the shit storm we're in.

Druvius comments on Jul 20, 2018:

And we're in the mess were in because Clinton ran an arrogant uninspired campaign and was unable to lead her party to victory over Trump and his clown car campaign. If she had climbed down from her entitled high horse and reached out to Sander's supporters after she had the nomination, she'd be the ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 20, 2018:

@JustLynnie na, those of us that went for real change just couldn't see ourselves being forced into lowering our morals to vote for the other side of hell. Clinton and the entire DNC with the help of Sander's made a mockery out of democracy. Why would you expect us to vote for proven criminals that are still supporting global war and murder of innocent civilians worldwide?

This was drawn in the 30's. Why are we still doing this, this way?

OldGoat43 comments on Jul 20, 2018:

Money draws them in. Money is being spent at an expanding rate during wars by all parties involved. Everything is consumed and needs to be replaced. The economy has no where to go but up afterwards.

William_Mary replies on Jul 20, 2018:

Hold that thought! I heard today the yield curve is showing signs of a recession. It's done something that tends for a recession within a year.

Remember When Russians… [ghionjournal.

gigihein comments on Jul 20, 2018:

I think I saw that. It was horrifying Zero Days, I think. I tsaw it a few years ago when visiting friends on Thanksgiving. The thought that we would cripple the infrastructure _ their gtid, transportation, phones, so civilans would have no escape was unfathomable. I never understood how it dodnt ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 20, 2018:

The CIA has been meddling in Iranian affairs since the 50's. The Reagan administration before it was in power. The hostages that Carter took so much flack over were held longer in Iran to make Reagan look like a hero once he was sworn in. No one mentions that!?! I'm not claiming Russia isn't a bad guy, just not the only bad guy.

Russiagate Is Like 9/11, Except It’s Made Of Pure Narrative [caitlinjohnstone.com]

Druvius comments on Jul 18, 2018:

Yerp, Trump has been harder on Russia than Obama. Wouldn't know that watching CNN.

William_Mary replies on Jul 19, 2018:

@Science-guy I take that back. It's not a theory, it's simply fact.

Russiagate Is Like 9/11, Except It’s Made Of Pure Narrative [caitlinjohnstone.com]

Druvius comments on Jul 18, 2018:

Yerp, Trump has been harder on Russia than Obama. Wouldn't know that watching CNN.

William_Mary replies on Jul 19, 2018:

@Science-guy Caitlin isn't about a news source. She's simply a political writer one can compare their own developing political opinions to from their own knowledge. She and a couple other writers I use here simply save me time I don't have to express my views from what I've learned. She actually gets under my skin at times as she constantly only gripes about American politics while her own country is in bed with the same establishment and deep state her country serves. This particular analogy isn't hard to come to or understand if you have spent the time following politics and examining the theory of managed perception by our politicians and media that Robert Parry exposed in which started in the 80's in a large expansion agenda. The Victory of ‘Perception Management’ https://consortiumnews.com/2014/12/28/the-victory-of-perception-management/

Vladimir Putin isn't joking when he tells Trump he'd like to work with our intelligence.

Lop-Eared-Mule comments on Jul 17, 2018:

Damn right! If you still don't believe we have a treasonous traitor in the White House, you need therapy.

William_Mary replies on Jul 17, 2018:

In all of our government!

The FACT is, our United States Congress has NOT authorized any military intervention whatsoever in ...

Lop-Eared-Mule comments on Jul 17, 2018:

Don't you mean Russia?

William_Mary replies on Jul 17, 2018:

It's quite likely they are beholden to the same power structure. See my morning post.

Trump finally does something right for a change.

Bakunin comments on Jul 16, 2018:

What did he do right?

William_Mary replies on Jul 17, 2018:

@Bakunin I have no evidence. But he has lead a life of treason like efforts towards humanity and our population. See my upcoming post. We may have a lot of people that are treasonous in our government.

Before you all go losing your minds over the summit.

Bendog comments on Jul 16, 2018:

Someone has lost their mind.

William_Mary replies on Jul 16, 2018:

Afraid of the truth and a good debate I see. Nice no substance! When you rather to just have a nuclear war, who then has lost their mind?

Before you all go losing your minds over the summit.

Secretguy comments on Jul 16, 2018:

You are what's known in politics as a useful idiot.

William_Mary replies on Jul 16, 2018:

Afraid of the truth and a good debate I see. Nice no substance! When you rather to just have a nuclear war, who then is the idiot?

Trump finally does something right for a change.

Bakunin comments on Jul 16, 2018:

What did he do right?

William_Mary replies on Jul 16, 2018:

He suggested that the intelligence information on the Russian witch hunt is probably wrong. Which it is. And he snuffed out the fire of hostile talk with another nuclear power rather than spouting off bullshit attempting to lead us into war with them. And might be making some progress in calming down the Syrian war.

The coming collapse of the American economic system with Richard Wolff [rt.

4Humanity comments on Jul 16, 2018:

I am a big Richard Wolff fan and wish capitalism an early end, but I'm still concerned that voting Green could erode the chances to remove Trump and his cohorts. I admit to being a Bernie fan, so I'm not immune from going against the mainstream. But convince me that going Green isn't going too far ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 16, 2018:

Those 2 parties are playing us. They have an agenda to keep us divided as they strive towards the same goals. And the media helps them do this. Over 90% of our media is owned by 6 mega billionaires that contribute to those 2 parties. It's really a system of managed perception towards making us believe how they want us to see the world, while they slowly move us in the direction of perpetual world war and take control of as much of our aspects to life as possible. And a large part of that entails shrinking the middle class and dumbing down the population with false repetitive news. Also keeping any sense of a socialist country to succeed, in which you have the situation there is in Venezuela. That is why Robert Parry left main stream media due to the strife he faced while covering the wars in Central America. You can read about him here. https://consortiumnews.com/2018/01/28/robert-parrys-legacy-and-the-future-of-consortiumnews/ If you go back to the Reagan administration and take a careful mind towards where we are today, you can get a sense of how we now have basically 2 republican parties. And each president since then has not only failed to practice their policy claims as they ran for office, but merely carried on the same agenda. More wars, less freedom and rights are the 2 most devastating results we have gotten. Growing inequality and politics that really only serve the rich, worse, the most wealthy. Both parties are working to take us backwards. Here's an article from Caitlin Johnston. But you can search my post and find about the same story from other writers and journalist that tell this same story in other ways. If it wasn't late I'd be glad to do it for you. Or would this weekend digging up some of them for you. I just happen to be up late because I can't sleep. This news today has me feeling really disturbed by the MSM and populations reactions. Anyways, she goes into the FCC thing then a couple other issues. But you can add any issue to the talking point and actually get basically the same results. Dems And GOP Work Together Like A Boxer’s 1–2 Punch To Knock You Out https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2017/12/16/dems-and-gop-work-together-like-a-boxers-1-2-punch-to-knock-you-out/ It really doesn't matter which party is in control when they both are taking us in the same direction. So the question then becomes, why stay with either if neither are serving for you?

Our Connective Existence: If Only We Could be Governed by Our Hearts: [ghionjournal.

gigihein comments on Jul 15, 2018:

I was unable to open the article, but what you are describing is happening everywhere. Even union jobs in many states no longer have raises to get people to top pay, we pay more for insurance, it really is trickle up benefits with less for workers and consumers. We are not a collective society and ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 15, 2018:

I think I fixed it, for now. I've been having a hell of a time with links here for some reason over a period of about 3 weeks now. Words in my post come up missing, or letters missing. Addresses in my links get add on's or partly taken out to make them bad. I have even gone back and fixed them as many times as 3 in a day for them to only go bad again.

MSNBC Does Not Merely Permit Fabrications Against Democratic Party Critics.

AnneWimsey comments on Jul 14, 2018:

I presume you like Fox?

William_Mary replies on Jul 15, 2018:

@AnneWimsey ok Anne, this will be my last reply to you. I've been as respectful as I can be despite your ignorance and cheap shots at me. Once again you are proving my points. You are directing cheap party affiliation and talking points at me while knowing nothing about me. In which I offered you a chance to get to know me and my politics. You assumed you knew I was a Fox supporter. I explained that was not the case. Now you throw Trump at me as though I'm a Trump supporter and or support his policies. Again you assume wrong. You are attempting to devalue me in the same manor the article brought to light that MSNBC attempted to devalue Glen Greenwald and Jill Stein. By attacking me rather than the issue in the article you have committed the same political problems we face I find people are programmed to produce. You comments have absolutely no substance and totally lack any factual means towards the attacks you make on me. I'm learning nothing from you due to this and this is wasting my time as I'm preparing another article for my group. Since you like satire so much, here's some for you. Being I know it's off the charts for you. If you want green, see Jill Stein, the one you will not give the light of day to. The green party is the only party talking green policies.

MSNBC Does Not Merely Permit Fabrications Against Democratic Party Critics.

AnneWimsey comments on Jul 14, 2018:

I presume you like Fox?

William_Mary replies on Jul 15, 2018:

@AnneWimsey thank you! You just keep proving my point. And the sad thing is you don't even get it. Good luck to you in that illusion. Be sure to pass it on to those you love. They'll need it as the world gets worse.

While our newest war hawk puts on another fake show.

Bakunin comments on Jul 12, 2018:

Look. The countries in question would have to buy their military hardware from somebody. Read: USA. Therefore this is just a way for Trump to drive the military-industrial complex production even higher than it already is (which is already the biggest in the world). Just another way to make wealth ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 15, 2018:

The countries in question all make and sell their own weapons. It doesn't make any logical sense. I'm at a developing opinion at this moment that this NATO shit talk is all a distraction from something else. I think I fairly spelled some of this out in another post from yesterday. Everything Trump claims to have gotten out of this summit is the same as what was agreed on in 2014 by most reports. https://agnostic.com/group/unempire/post/130621/brits-dont-mince-words-the-most-irreverent-and-radical-signs-from-uks-historic-anti-trump-protest

MSNBC Does Not Merely Permit Fabrications Against Democratic Party Critics.

AnneWimsey comments on Jul 14, 2018:

I presume you like Fox?

William_Mary replies on Jul 15, 2018:

No! I staunchly promote independent new sources. As I, in other words, stated above in my initial post, 90% of our main steam media is a systematic program used by our government and the 6 people that own that 90% to manage your perception to what they want you to believe. The article above is simply that measure in which MSNBC used against Glenn Greenwald to devalue his work to their followers with false information. As he also explained they did to Jill Stein. Jill Stein was attacked with the most vicious falsely manufactured propaganda machine by all main stream media news sources during the last election cycle. If it wasn't for people like me, most Americans wouldn't even know she exists. And the media used their power to make her as little of a threat in the elections as possible. Fox is every bit as bad as MSNBC! And you actually proven part of my issues with main stream media. And fallen right into their trap. Because I posted an article that brought out the light of how MSNBC conducts themselves towards others with valued opinions, by manufacturing lies, you instantly assumed I'm a Fox follower. Even though I stated clearly in my initial post our media has an agenda. If you had simply clicked on the link I provided to my group here at the bottom of my initial post, you also would have found more information on my agenda to lead others to better news sources and out of the main stream medias illusion. Just as it goes with democrat and republican, so it goes with news sources. They keep you divided and trapped in that "you have to be one of them or the other". I'm against both corrupt parties and both MSNBC and FOX. There are better alternatives to both our politics and new sources.

MSNBC Does Not Merely Permit Fabrications Against Democratic Party Critics.

BlueWave comments on Jul 14, 2018:

Love that reliably trustworthy Intercept. That’s the epitome on non-biased world-class journalism right there. I hear they're in the running for a few Pulitzers this year, right? Screw CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, the BBC, the NYT, the LAT and the WaPo—they are all FAKE NEWS —and my money is ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 14, 2018:

Actually, since The Intercept was bought out about 3 years ago, it has become a little more spotty on establishment towing. I've been following it for a few years and have noticed the difference. They do still hold some good writers though. I actually caught one of their bad writers today. Blue, I run a group here at Agnostic, "Out Of The Illusion Group" , in which I posted about an article another writer put out on The Intercept. Glen Greenwald is of course one of their finer and I've read many articles of his. you might find my post interesting. As follows. https://agnostic.com/group/unempire/post/130683/heres-the-difference-between-fake-news-and-real-news-i-often-post-articles-from-the-intercept-so

Welcome to Out Of The Illusion.

SpikeTalon comments on Jul 13, 2018:

Too much truth spoken in this group...which would probably upset about ninety percent of the members on this site who worship the likes of CNN and MSM.

William_Mary replies on Jul 13, 2018:

I have to admit I was quite naive coming into this site thinking I'd find more open mined people. But I quickly came to find that within the same type of manged perception religion engulfs over a large part of our population, so does the MSM with seemingly most people here. I actually figured if people were able to step out of that illusion, of organized religion, surely they would have a better conscience to seek out truth within our politics and its consequences around the world.

Welcome to Out Of The Illusion.

metalhead222 comments on Jul 13, 2018:

You got balls man big ones the truth is the single hardest thing to find . So I applaud anyone willing to stand up and scream about capitalist pigs or misinformation wich makes change dam near impossible cutos:)

William_Mary replies on Jul 13, 2018:

It does seem to be an endless thankless chore. Thank you! I hope you stick around and add your opinion.

Let this sink in for a moment, if you need a moment.

Geoffrey51 comments on Jul 9, 2018:

I've noticed that since Blair came to power in Britain the two major parties, Conservstive and Labour have been tussling over the middle ground, traditionally the territory of The Liberal or later Liberal Democrat party. This gives rise to extreme right and left parties and independents. As a ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 10, 2018:

Yea, I see that all as the same as we deal with here. Dog and pony show. All of Europe is moving backwards into austerity and seemingly fascism, losing rights and social programs. It's by design there as it is here. Because their politicians are owned by the same people ours are.

Personalities vs Institutional Nepotism: A Follow Up to My Ocasio-Cortez Article ...

Geoffrey51 comments on Jul 9, 2018:

If the Green Party in USA are anything like the Green Party in Australia and UK they'll sell their mother like the rest now. They used to be a fantastic pressure group and elicited many changes for the better in government by raising issues that the mainstream had to incorporate due to polling ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 10, 2018:

@Geoffrey51 well there's always going to be bad apples no matter what group you're in. It's what the group does as a whole. If this one entity brought down the whole group, that is quite interesting. At the time I'm dealing with 2 groups full of bad apples rotting away the world society, and fellow country persons supporting them to rot the basket I'm stuck in with them. I want to change that!

Like It or Not, Trump Is Systematically Eliminating the Imperial Capitalist Order ...

Solar1 comments on Jul 9, 2018:

I just see him as the puppet Sharpshooter or henchmen whatever you want to call it for the liquidation team

William_Mary replies on Jul 9, 2018:

@Solar1 I realize a lot of our past presidents were members of secret societies. And if not, end up in the club one way or another. But I have half an idea Trump may very well be the first to actually be a member of the deep state. That is with his father and uncle's backgrounds. His uncle, John Trump has ties to Tesla. He seems to have played a big role in Tesla's apparent missing files along with the OSS and FBI after his death. The History Channel had a series on about it about 2 months ago. I'm hoping they don't cancel season 2. It was quite interesting.

Personalities vs Institutional Nepotism: A Follow Up to My Ocasio-Cortez Article ...

Geoffrey51 comments on Jul 9, 2018:

If the Green Party in USA are anything like the Green Party in Australia and UK they'll sell their mother like the rest now. They used to be a fantastic pressure group and elicited many changes for the better in government by raising issues that the mainstream had to incorporate due to polling ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 9, 2018:

On very few occasions I have heard bad of Europe's green party also. My problem with that was when confronted, they couldn't provide any evidence of their claims. I'm quite certain if there was actually dirt to put out about the party or any members of, the MSM would have trample over each other to put it out in public. If you follow my post here, I post a ton of articles of Caitlin Johnstone's, who is from your country. I don't think I've ever heard her say a thing about the green party there. Although she does from time to time admit your government is a tool to the US Empire, she tends to stick to mainly writing about our politics.

Let this sink in for a moment, if you need a moment.

Rangerbeavis comments on Jul 9, 2018:

What if all voters circled NONE OF THE ABOVE?

William_Mary replies on Jul 9, 2018:

I once had the theory we should all refuse to vote. But even if you could get everyone on page they'd just pick someone themselves. I mean seriously, the democrats did that in the 2016 primary with us voting.

Canadian Miners Do in Mexico What They Aren't Allowed at Home [telesurtv.

gigihein comments on May 19, 2018:

We do similar things.Pharmaceutical companies were in Puerto Rico where either OSHA didnt apply or wasnt monitored. Male workers were growing breasts where north control pills were made.i read several articles when I frequently vacationed there in then80s and 90s.

William_Mary replies on Jul 9, 2018:

@gigihein you're quite welcome. Thank you for following!

German Cars and American Steak: Early Trade War Victims Emerge [us.

Science-guy comments on Jul 8, 2018:

Broken link?

William_Mary replies on Jul 8, 2018:

Sorry. For some reason a lot of my links here lately become broken even though I've checked them after posting. I'm to a point I think someone is sabotaging me. Some I have gone back and fixed as many as 3 times. Maybe this source will stay?

How Liberal Partisan Politics Strengthen the Right Wing [truthout.

JustKip comments on Jul 8, 2018:

This is neither new, nor surprising.

William_Mary replies on Jul 8, 2018:

@JustKip thank you! Sometimes it just takes another persons way of putting it to reach someone I can't!

How Liberal Partisan Politics Strengthen the Right Wing [truthout.

JustKip comments on Jul 8, 2018:

This is neither new, nor surprising.

William_Mary replies on Jul 8, 2018:

So your reply is to discourage others from reading rather than to add your thoughts from a developed opinion? I just posted it a few minutes before you replied. The top article being fresh from yesterday. So maybe since your engulfed in all the wisdom of the issues, could you be so nice to provide us as to why we still continue to struggle with them. So we can move on to a better future for our following generations!

They are attempting to take as much from your next generation as they can this very moment.

gigihein comments on Jul 7, 2018:

I hsve faith the upcoming generations will. Things have gotten so out of control that even adolescents can see taking babies and kids from parents, doing nothing about school shootings by limiting military weapons not sold, ptotection for the environment and actions to correct climate change rolled ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 8, 2018:

We need to help this millennial generation reach their goals! They don't want what we have allowed to become during the past several decades! And I bloody well don't blame them. They are indeed disowning the worlds blood on our hands. Peace.People.Planet.

Numb to Outrage, Republican Voters Feel a Deepening Bond to Trump ...

Robin1970 comments on Jul 7, 2018:

Trump could rape a baby in public and republicans would cheer him on.

William_Mary replies on Jul 7, 2018:

Dam mit girl! Don't give that asshole any ideas!

Meet Andrew Wheeler, the Coal Lobbyist Who Just Took Over the EPA [theantimedia.com]

Rangerbeavis comments on Jul 6, 2018:

Our time is coming. At the next election we will throw the bums out! The Republican party is toast!

William_Mary replies on Jul 6, 2018:

I wish it was looking to be that easy. But there's a hell of a lot of bums we need to get rid of from both party's.

The Illusion of Ocasio-Cortez: New Faces Won’t Mend a Cancerous Political System ...

Ellatynemouth comments on Jul 5, 2018:

I knew it! Just the fact that the ruling class owned media was giving her air time made me suspicious. Another neoliberal in disguise. **However.... ** This article was no different to the politics it was criticising. It offered no plan of action. No solutions. No practical advice. Nothing....

William_Mary replies on Jul 6, 2018:

While Teodrose Fikre writes mainly to get you to think, often using his own past experience, as I do this here, also gives insight to solutions. Within the article are 2 links where solutions were attempted. One by Cynthia McKinney against Bush in the push to Iraq. Although shunned by her fellow democrats, it demonstrates effort, a different mind set to also create self thought, which Ocasio-Cortez is going to face, again, or not. The other link consist of Teodrose Fikre clearly attempting to offer solutions. In which mainly draw you back to my initial statement. Why we do this. Getting the truth out there is the first line of defense. Creating a mass solution, which is YOU! US! and those we can mass collect to fight back.

Empire Files: War With North Korea – Propaganda vs. Reality [therealnews.com]

Rangerbeavis comments on Jul 5, 2018:

Going to war with North Korea would be like going to war with the Flintstones ( remember that one? ). Sure they have teeth but easily removed with very little left.

William_Mary replies on Jul 6, 2018:

Nice missing the point.

The Illusion of Ocasio-Cortez: New Faces Won’t Mend a Cancerous Political System ...

EdEarl comments on Jul 5, 2018:

There are 435 representatives in congress, one more will not make a huge difference. However, that she beat Joe Crowley who had 3x campaign funds supplied by a PAC does make a difference. It shows progressives are voting in larger numbers and that some people who have been voting Republican are ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 5, 2018:

@EdEarl I'll agree there, but my argument is that it can't be done in that party. Local, state, and national, you just can't fight that! Ask the tea party how that works. Good idea they had. They didn't have a clue what they were really talking about on the tax issue for one thing. Then 2 months in it was bought out by the Koch bothers. The republican party swallowed it whole without chewing like a starving dog. Ask Sanders how that feels! And there's signs they already have her in their mouths and ready to swallow her. She's been on 2 MSM shows now for interviews and took a step back from her rhetoric. Seemingly scared to speak her mind when she needs to keep fighting. She can't wait and win at the same time. Either go at them or the republican is going to win. And I'm betting, the democrats at this point would be fine with a republican over a real progressive. She's not acting like a real progressive anymore!

The Illusion of Ocasio-Cortez: New Faces Won’t Mend a Cancerous Political System ...

Ellatynemouth comments on Jul 5, 2018:

I knew it! Just the fact that the ruling class owned media was giving her air time made me suspicious. Another neoliberal in disguise. **However.... ** This article was no different to the politics it was criticising. It offered no plan of action. No solutions. No practical advice. Nothing....

William_Mary replies on Jul 5, 2018:

It's beginning to seem that way :-(

The Illusion of Ocasio-Cortez: New Faces Won’t Mend a Cancerous Political System ...

EdEarl comments on Jul 5, 2018:

There are 435 representatives in congress, one more will not make a huge difference. However, that she beat Joe Crowley who had 3x campaign funds supplied by a PAC does make a difference. It shows progressives are voting in larger numbers and that some people who have been voting Republican are ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 5, 2018:

From the article and from her 2 opportunities of interviews on MSM, it's beginning to look like she is the one changing. She's been given the chance to stand her ground and she has wavered.

The Illusion of Ocasio-Cortez: New Faces Won’t Mend a Cancerous Political System ...

Marine comments on Jul 5, 2018:

We need new candidates to replace those who feel they are more important than the issues.

William_Mary replies on Jul 5, 2018:

We need a new party to replace the old farts shiting on us! If this women is indeed already changing her tune in support of wars and Clinton, then she's just a new person with the same old flaws. She's been on MSM at least twice now with the opportunity to stand her ground and speak and she's wavered. That's not a good sign!

Communism

snytiger6 comments on Jul 2, 2018:

It would be different, but not much better. Communism works in small groups, which is villages of about 200 people or less. That is why most tribal villages had smaller numbers. Once you get above 200 people then anonymity and self interest start to take over. The system only works when ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 2, 2018:

It works in Europe. It works in Cuba and Venezuela despite the interference from the westernized world. Just imagine what Cuba and Venezuela could be today if left alone all these years, decades for Cuba. They have a near perfect mix of socialism and capitalism. And that's why you get false news about them. Because they don't want you to know it can work!

I've read all types of outraged comments here about the "CRIMINAL! NAZI! DESPICABLE! INHUMANE!" way ...

archer5691 comments on Jul 2, 2018:

Yup. The PRIORITY should always be CITIZENS........LEGAL card -carrying- tax -paying CITIZENS. And we keep forgetting this.

William_Mary replies on Jul 2, 2018:

Does that go for Melania Trump? Are you educated to how she became a citizen? Yet I never hear a Trumpster whining about how she made her way to citizenship.

If post modernism and the subjectivity of reality were true there'd be no such thing as science

citronella comments on May 10, 2018:

Reality is socially constructed, and therefore subjective. Different cultures exist because they developed in sufficient isolation from each other and could therefore develop their own shared systems and beliefs. We look at people who eat beetles or maggots or whatever and are horrified, while ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 2, 2018:

I would argue that there are a hell of a lot more scientist that don't look down on people than politicians! Their work is that to better society compared to find ways to suppress the population.

Depraved Sociopath Bill Kristol Very Excited About Recent Iran Developments ...

Druvius comments on Jul 1, 2018:

Bad link posted, but found it here. https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2018/07/01/depraved-sociopath-bill-kristol-very-excited-about-recent-iran-developments/

William_Mary replies on Jul 1, 2018:

Thank you! Fixed. I seem to be having issues with the site or something today.

50 Reasons to Bail Out of the Two-Party System and Become an Independent Voter [ivn.us]

Paul4747 comments on Jun 30, 2018:

3 Reasons why this was not anything worth reading: 1) 50 sentences with a number on the beginning of each are not 50 separate reasons. They are sentences which properly belong in fully developed paragraphs. Separating an ABCD chain of logic into A B C D doesn't make it 4 different thoughts. ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 1, 2018:

@Paul4747 I get what you're saying to a large degree, but that's not entirely correct. As I spent the last couple of months of 2015 and 2016 on social media getting Sanders, quite unknown at the time, especially with my age group and up, out and noticed, I seen and helped a lot of those republicans in their quest to chance parties to vote for him. Which is one of the reasons I'm so angry towards him! There are a lot of republican people, mostly upper age, basically trapped in a generation gap of history and belief that don't like their party. And the fact that there were so many republicans willing to change their party affiliation to vote for a socialist is astounding. They're still voting for something that just isn't there anymore! Voting for an ideology that doesn't exist. I and many others argue that the compromise you're speaking of doesn't exist either. It's not meant to exist is our argument. And the politicians speak of it is window dressing. It's a trap, and quite frankly, I find what you and I are doing now puts us in to it. We will also argue, and quite frankly, you seem to be making the same argument, the god dam system is already broken. It isn't a system for the people, it's a system for the establishment and deep state. Why would you even suggest people stay and vote for people they don't like!?! Trust!?! I can just see me voting for Hillary Clinton with all the history of neoliberalism and lies I know about her. That would essentially make me complicit to her war crimes and tolerant to, and to her lies and corruption against the very thing I was working against during the primary and election cycle. Yes, it's been argued for years. But don't you think that with somewhere in the figures of 45% to now I think 48% of the population registered as independents isn't a sign of change? I think it was at 48% during the last election cycle. depending where you find the numbers. Progressives and green party candidates are having considerable effect on winning positions this primary cycle. It's changing! From the bottom up right now. Because people like me and our pundits aren't giving up. It took 4 decades to get here, it's going to take, hopefully less time to sweep it away. People like Nader, Hedges, Abby Martin, Robert Parry, Jill Stein,etc have all worked within an establishment and media blackout. But with social media we have recently been able to bring them out and start a movement that can speed up the process. I seen it work to a degree I still find astounding just in my republican voters remark above. Hang in there Paul!

50 Reasons to Bail Out of the Two-Party System and Become an Independent Voter [ivn.us]

SpikeTalon comments on Jun 30, 2018:

Conservative-leaning registered independent here.

William_Mary replies on Jul 1, 2018:

I take it that means you don't agree with the present ways of the conservative party? Which I see as only conserving our greatest resources for themselves and corporations.

50 Reasons to Bail Out of the Two-Party System and Become an Independent Voter [ivn.us]

snytiger6 comments on Jun 30, 2018:

The best reason not to opt out is that if you are a member of a party, you can vote for the least destructive candidate in the primaries.

William_Mary replies on Jul 1, 2018:

I hope you hang around. I'll give you a reason to question that and hopefully give you reason to redevelop your opinion. 99.9% of the time there is no less destructive candidate when they are working for the same agenda and the same people. If you live in an area you can't vote as an independent, help the fight to change that. Even if you don't want to change. Those that live around you deserve the same rights as you! Dems And GOP Work Together Like A Boxer’s 1–2 Punch To Knock You Out https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2017/12/16/dems-and-gop-work-together-like-a-boxers-1-2-punch-to-knock-you-out/ Caitlin starts this out about the net neutrality vote, but you can replace that, as she goes into some, with any issue of laws and bills and by going back through history see how we get the least towards solving our issues. Today is a prime example of what she is talking about. With republicans in charge of all 3 houses they are undoing quite a lot of what the weak ass democrats have done or failed to do properly. That's by design! Politics Is a Sport the Rich Play https://ghionjournal.com/politics-is-a-sport-the-rich-play/ No one can tell you it hurts anymore than myself when you get hit like a 2X4 upside your head when you come to realize everything you believed about your history, country and politics is a mascaraed party. That your perception has been managed for decades by intelligence agencies, your politicians, and your MSM (main stream media), for the benefit of the worlds most elite wealthy. And over that managed perception people around the world are being slaughtered because of the lies of false narratives these entities force upon us in a repetitive brainwashing recycle mode. Yes, it totally sucks. But it's the truth we have to face and confront it.

50 Reasons to Bail Out of the Two-Party System and Become an Independent Voter [ivn.us]

gigihein comments on Jun 30, 2018:

I have to admit. I vote not to lose instead of to win. I dont like Hillary and think she would have been more powerful not getting sucked in to the ludicrous banter with Trump. She is pro fracking and like all of them is just her corporate supporters' bitch. She called Trump's followers deplorable ...

William_Mary replies on Jul 1, 2018:

I would say Jimmy Carter. But his flaw also was being forced to play inside the agenda. The very agenda that took him out on his 2nd run via corrupt secret Iranian talks to keep Americans as hostages to make him look bad, and then falsely make Reagan look like a hero. Outside of the Kennedy's, Carter may have been the last person trying to escape the hold of that shadow government that's really running our country. I could go on for quite some time about the Carter effect. Solar energy, the Saudi oil, the failed hostage rescue, Iran-Contra from the Rumsfeld-Iran secret talks. I take a lot of flack for this opinion, but you can easily find the facts to a path to my opinion. Carters only flaw was that he was in a place and time when they were ready to make perpetual war the main agenda. He was merely in the way. I quit voting to lose because of Obama. His first 2 years was as much an eye opener for me as Sanders first 2 debates. Were tired of hearing about your dam emails was as catchy as, yes we can. All we got was, no went wont, and silence to more of her corruption via emails. Gordon Lightfoot says it perfectly. Sometimes I think it's a sin When I feel like I'm winning when I'm losing again. I think about politics every time I hear that verse. And the people that refuse to want to win even though they have half a mind they're voting in a corrupt system for corrupt politicians on both sides that serve that same one entity that doesn't give a shit about us. Until all those who know this quit thinking like that, and power vote to out the establishment, they are just as guilty of holding back the country. But they need to quit being drawn into believing they can bring change in that system which is only there to trap them into the infighting. I may even be wrong about Sanders. That's fine if I am. Because I'm following through on what Sanders told us about. The democratic party is corrupt and serves wall street. It will not change. Those are his very words. And that is still being proven today even after all the exposure of 2016. And just as he also said, don't go by what I do, take the movement and keep it going. What little is getting done inside that party can staunchly be expanded outside it and help it a hell of a lot faster. We are losing when people think they are winning! We're running out of time. I voted to lose, yet what I voted for is growing. Therefore I am winning.

50 Reasons to Bail Out of the Two-Party System and Become an Independent Voter [ivn.us]

Paul4747 comments on Jun 30, 2018:

3 Reasons why this was not anything worth reading: 1) 50 sentences with a number on the beginning of each are not 50 separate reasons. They are sentences which properly belong in fully developed paragraphs. Separating an ABCD chain of logic into A B C D doesn't make it 4 different thoughts. ...

William_Mary replies on Jun 30, 2018:

I also as I was reading it got the sense it could have just been an article of facts, opinion, and disapproval of the establishment party's. Not worth reading? Hardly the case. Though I agree it could have been written in a different manor, it gave real thought to the poor governing we receive and that which many people are becoming aware of today. Put another way maybe it will enlighten those who think in a way this will give meaning to to readjust there developed opinion. Not worth reading is quite harsh! I and many others have voiced the very same issue within this piece many times as we attempt to spread our opinions. That's all this was.

50 Reasons to Bail Out of the Two-Party System and Become an Independent Voter [ivn.us]

starwatcher-al comments on Jun 30, 2018:

I never registered for any party, always independent and vote for the person or issue. Early on I realized the need to not be controlled by others ideas and leanings. More and more people going that way I think.

William_Mary replies on Jun 30, 2018:

Yes, there is a growing trend to leave the 2 party establishment. Especially people leaving the democratic party today after what went down in 2016. People are waking up!

Democratic Elite Scrambles to Respond to Ocasio-Cortez [consortiumnews.

gigihein comments on Jun 30, 2018:

I posted anout her on FB when I saw a youtube video of her running She is so refreshing. I always here the media's first desvriotion is she was recently bartending, instead of her having degree from Boston University in Economics and International Relations. Something we will really need when ...

William_Mary replies on Jun 30, 2018:

@gigihein I see.

Democratic Elite Scrambles to Respond to Ocasio-Cortez [consortiumnews.

gigihein comments on Jun 30, 2018:

I posted anout her on FB when I saw a youtube video of her running She is so refreshing. I always here the media's first desvriotion is she was recently bartending, instead of her having degree from Boston University in Economics and International Relations. Something we will really need when ...

William_Mary replies on Jun 30, 2018:

Was that the video from the makers explaining the need for a low cost video due to funds? Using local people and her family and daily activities?

50 Reasons to Bail Out of the Two-Party System and Become an Independent Voter [ivn.us]

William_Mary comments on Jun 30, 2018:

36. The best the Republican Party could do in 2016 was a reality television celebrity and real estate mogul who bragged on the stage about how much influence he’s bought from politicians. Ask yourself, if you must, why don't any of our top senators or congress people run for president any ...

William_Mary replies on Jun 30, 2018:

@gigihein exactly :-(

The Violence Central American Migrants Are Fleeing Was Stoked by the US [vice.

DUCHESSA comments on Jun 29, 2018:

And why do you think USA deeps its spoon from Guatemala to Panama?

William_Mary replies on Jun 29, 2018:

They are, especially Panama, strategically valuable. With Panama you have a sense of control of shipping lanes from one side of world to the other! Guatemala was more about stopping a socialist take over some decades back for corporate interest headed by the CIA. Eventually leading to several peasant rebellions with incarcerations and massacres. You can read more about that here>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d'%C3%A9tat

Why Venezuela Reporting Is So Bad [venezuelanalysis.

Jolanta comments on Jun 29, 2018:

Yes, one has to look out for independent media to get a picture of what is going on.

William_Mary replies on Jun 29, 2018:

@Jolanta just click on the link I provided in blue script, Out Of The Illusion, and it will take you to the group. I often post a lot of articles from one of your fellow Australians, Caitlin Johnstone. "Out Of The Illusion Group"

Why Venezuela Reporting Is So Bad [venezuelanalysis.

Jolanta comments on Jun 29, 2018:

Yes, one has to look out for independent media to get a picture of what is going on.

William_Mary replies on Jun 29, 2018:

Look no further Jolanta. Feel free to join my group as I post my favorite independent sources and their news. I'd be very happy to see you there and hear your insight. "Out Of The Illusion Group"

Hello everyone, newbie here, perhaps everyone is?

William_Mary comments on Jun 27, 2018:

He can't muster the support we gave him in 2016. To many of us refuse to allow him to con us again. The democratic party will not support him and we're not giving our money to the democratic party again! See the whole picture and get over Sanders already. He was weak in the debates, by the end of ...

William_Mary replies on Jun 28, 2018:

@dare2dream how dare you! Hillary!?! Why I oughta slap you so hard you start 2dreaming. I find Warren to be another piece of window dressing for fake progressive politics. This is a woman that got stabbed in the back by Hillieary over the blackmail bill, knowing she is a total neoliberal war monger, she, Clinton, lied about her vote for the Iraq war, she, Warren, held out on her support throughout the entire primary, to give it to the very person she should be fighting against over a supposedly fellow progressive candidate. Warren is just another mouth piece of the illusion. Reich did the same thing all through most of the primary. Spoke up Sanders and why he should be the candidate. Talked down Clinton from his time as part of the Clinton administration and the flaws it created. Then in the end like so many other mouth pieces, gave lips service to Clinton. News flash! There was another choice out there. A real progressive candidate that champions peace people and planet. I went by way of peace people and planet. Jill Stein of the green party. Us X Sanders supporters have been slowly educating the US to their existence. In Ohio alone for the primary's going on now, we have almost doubled the people in the green party. It's growing because people want change and starting to get knowledge of the party. If you're against all that like you say, you'd be a good addition to my group here. Feel free to join and add your insight. "Out Of The Illusion Group"

US Mayor Comments on Venezuelan Electoral System & May 20 Elections [venezuelanalysis.

Solar1 comments on Jun 28, 2018:

Do you follow Abby Martin?

William_Mary replies on Jun 28, 2018:

@Solar1 due to Maduro or because of the western interference?

APPALACHIA’S $84 BILLION SECRET ...

Lucy_Fehr comments on Jun 28, 2018:

The site can't be reached

William_Mary replies on Jun 28, 2018:

Fixed. Thank you!

Hello everyone, newbie here, perhaps everyone is?

William_Mary comments on Jun 27, 2018:

He can't muster the support we gave him in 2016. To many of us refuse to allow him to con us again. The democratic party will not support him and we're not giving our money to the democratic party again! See the whole picture and get over Sanders already. He was weak in the debates, by the end of ...

William_Mary replies on Jun 28, 2018:

@CockadoodleDoo evidence! I don't know what more you need! You're stating the evidence yourself and can't see it. Ocasio-Cortez's is quite inspiring, but she's in a party within the very same corruption Sanders spoke of. Without others to back her up she will most likely be silenced and ignored much the same as Sanders has been for decades. It's going to be a constant up hill battle for her because she doesn't have green party people to help her. Kyle Kulinski, a Young Turks affiliate. How did Cenk work out for us? He turned that group into another fake news source. Say one thing and vote the other thing. Marvelous. You're trying to sell me he's not a sellout when everything that happened tells us he did. You are admitting the party is corrupt while asking me to support it. Seriously!?! Instead of providing me a statement I already know, "Plus sooo many people unfortunately always vote Red or Blue, they don't have the time or inclination to seek out 3rd parties." you should be asking yourself why that is. Which is why I'm fighting against it! And the media, 4th estate, that should also be fighting against it rather than for it. And you. I'll tell you why. the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) have rules designed to block alternative-party candidates from debating? Because of Jesse Ventura's 1998 independent campaign in Minnesota. Ventura was dismissed as "not viable" with a tiny percentage in the polls until he was allow to participate in a gubernatorial debate. His poll numbers soared and he went on to win the election. When the CPD (controlled by Dem & GOP leaders) saw what happened in Minnesota, it raised the requirement to 15% in the polls in 2000 so that Gore and Bush wouldn't have to face Nader and Buchanan in the debates.The CPD's rules aren't meant to block nonviable candidates. They're meant to stop alternative-party candidates from becoming viable. After Obama's surprise win the democrats weren't going to take a chance of Clinton losing again. So they put in what they thought was the least likely opponent, who made a deal, as we later found out towards the end of the primary, to go soft on her. They made one big ass major mistake, miscalculation though. They had no clue that so many people would actually get behind a socialist! People switching from the republican party to vote for a god dam socialist!?! In swarms. Independents where needed switching to democrat to vote for one. The millennial movement! Those in the age groups of 50 and up!?! Yea, you want me to remain silent and ignore the truths of our government, media, and election corruption, rather that get notice to my fellow Americans that there can be a better choice. That doesn't sound familiar to you? You have to step out of the illusion to be able to fight it. All the ...

US Mayor Comments on Venezuelan Electoral System & May 20 Elections [venezuelanalysis.

Solar1 comments on Jun 28, 2018:

Do you follow Abby Martin?

William_Mary replies on Jun 28, 2018:

Abby Martin is my favorite independent journalist! http://theempirefiles.tv/ You can find her work in that link and she does most of her work lately via teleSur today.

You may; Hate. Despise. Ridicule. Mock. But he's doing what he said he'd do if elected:

thatgirllaura comments on Jun 27, 2018:

So untrue. He's told lie after lie and not followed through. How blind are you???????

William_Mary replies on Jun 28, 2018:

@thatgirllaura it's very likely we'd be near a full fledged war in Syria over her lies if she was. More American soldiers and innocent civilians being killed over false claims of chemical weapons attacks for regime change and natural resources. Yemen isn't enough for you!?!

Hello everyone, newbie here, perhaps everyone is?

William_Mary comments on Jun 27, 2018:

He can't muster the support we gave him in 2016. To many of us refuse to allow him to con us again. The democratic party will not support him and we're not giving our money to the democratic party again! See the whole picture and get over Sanders already. He was weak in the debates, by the end of ...

William_Mary replies on Jun 28, 2018:

@dare2dream keep telling yourself that and you're going to get the same results. Which is exactly why we can't change the system. And while you make my case for me you refuse to see it. "be careful not to split the party" "helped to wake up the electorate to the real issues" Take a trip through memory lane and try to recall what charges he made against Clinton and the democratic party! Those charges were made in an attempt to split the party, for them to vote towards a progressive nature over a corrupt system for the likes of wall street and corporations. You in no way shape or form have it both ways in a sincere reality. Sincere being the key word here. Sanders became just another jab for the democratic party towards the 2 party system. Feel free to replace any issue in this Caitlin Johnstone article and you have what's going on today. https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/dems-and-gop-work-together-like-a-boxers-1-2-punch-to-knock-you-out-edbbefc92bf8 A lot of politicians get on camera and tell us what they think the problem is. Then they vote for the opposite to fix it, because they don't want to fix it. And yes, Sanders was extremely weak. We have evidence from since the 90's of the Clinton neoliberal politics and shady dealings that Sanders could have used against Clinton in the debates while he continuously only used a mere few. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUeHZMfQ-Uc No, I speak like a real progressive socialist that's hates the fact that Sanders used us to help him support a corrupt party and election cycle, a party in which it came out he made a deal with to be weak. We don't have anymore time to be, WEAK!

UK Conservative government proposes tax increases on workers to fund National Health Service ...

Residualspirit comments on Jun 26, 2018:

Let's be honest they love screwing the poor man and increasing profits for their rich mates and big corporate companies. We already saw into the pensions they are now taking away and the health service which sorry but the first person who paid for private dentist or glasses or prescription were ...

William_Mary replies on Jun 27, 2018:

@Residualspirit what's the Green Party like over there? I've heard some talk, though little, negativity about them. Is it just a circle of propaganda for an attempt to keep them from growing over here?

ER doc on treating border kids: ‘it really does, truly, feel like government-mandated child abuse'...

SaucyCheryl comments on Jun 26, 2018:

I'm just sick over it. Is this what we have become?

William_Mary replies on Jun 27, 2018:

I'm seeing more and more people say they find it embarrassing or ashamed to be American these days. Something that was unfounded at one time and unthinkable. Unfortunately, most of those people are still the very people that exist in the 2 establishment party's that are causing their grief. Peace People Planet

What do you have for the lower back.

GuyKeith comments on Jun 26, 2018:

I'm assuming you're talking about the one in my profile. I didn't realize it was broken and has been fixed. I have noticed that sometimes agnostic has a habit of eliminating letters or entire words. The original post has been pinned. Anything else?

William_Mary replies on Jun 27, 2018:

Na, you got it all covered now :-)

UK Conservative government proposes tax increases on workers to fund National Health Service ...

Residualspirit comments on Jun 26, 2018:

Let's be honest they love screwing the poor man and increasing profits for their rich mates and big corporate companies. We already saw into the pensions they are now taking away and the health service which sorry but the first person who paid for private dentist or glasses or prescription were ...

William_Mary replies on Jun 26, 2018:

How much more do they need!?! How far above us do they need to be to find empathy for those who in a large degree got them to their status? All that money is like an apply on the ground rotting. A rot that could give so much live and enable such more towards the world society for advancement. They are not only holding us back, but also themselves.

Unmasking the GOP as the Party of Negligent Homicide [truthout.

memorylikeasieve comments on Jun 24, 2018:

It's a lot of financial thisthats that I can't even pretend to understand. I'm one of those people with pre-existing conditions who wouldn't have insurance at all if not for the ACA and probably won't again, soon.

William_Mary replies on Jun 25, 2018:

Lets hope that isn't the case! If so, exhaust every local and government entity trying to find help.

Unmasking the GOP as the Party of Negligent Homicide [truthout.

Outlier comments on Jun 24, 2018:

Whew! How do you feel about Single Payer?

William_Mary replies on Jun 24, 2018:

I'm leary. If it comes with taking the present healthcare industry out of the medical field and based on our taxes, I'm all for it. If it involves the same ritual of the healthcare industries helping to write the laws and dictate prices, it will just be another redistribution of wealth onto other groups of society again. We need to be able to be allowed to go out of country for cheaper medications! We are literally paying for the worlds medicines right here in the US.

Unmasking the GOP as the Party of Negligent Homicide [truthout.

MichaelSpinler comments on Jun 24, 2018:

sad and true. i cant fully blame obama. turtle boy and his cronies, blocked anything the man wanted to get done, then turn around and blame him for not getting it done. obama care is a fail. its legal extortion at this point, as soon as they made it, they jacked the prices up. i have had to switch ...

William_Mary replies on Jun 24, 2018:

I will argue your not going to find any sense of progressive in the democratic party anytime soon. They will fight it for the sake of their corporate owners. The Green Party has made a noticeable stride in this present primary cycle. Yes, that is a hint. I feel your pain.

Unmasking the GOP as the Party of Negligent Homicide [truthout.

DenoPenno comments on Jun 24, 2018:

I'm not sure how much of my medical care is coming out of the ACA (Obamacare) but I chose to leave everything alone. I retired and the government pushed us all to let private companies do our medical care. I chose Coventry which is now under the Aetna umbrella. Off and on there have been small ...

William_Mary replies on Jun 24, 2018:

Thank you. The 3rd year I went into Mary's company program saving me close to 250 a month. Our employer did reinstall our program this year. It's still high but that's because the premiums have been going up an average of 20 to 25 % a year. I do hope you realize though the democrats are just as guilty in this also. But they are as corporate bought as the republicans. If they really wanted to do something about healthcare other than preach to the chore they'd be protesting on the floors of congress for us until something was done.

Unmasking the GOP as the Party of Negligent Homicide [truthout.

nicknotes comments on Jun 24, 2018:

Does anyone remember the Republican Primary Debate when they were talking about a poor man who was sick and didn't have healthcare and the audience began chanting...LET HIM DIE?

William_Mary replies on Jun 24, 2018:

Yes! How profoundly sick have we become?

US Navy planning to build military camps to jail 120,000 immigrants [wsws.

SKH78 comments on Jun 24, 2018:

Man, we are going somewhere in a handbasket. I do what I can. I sign petitions, donate money, write letters and sometimes protest in the streets. We should do whatever is possible to mitigate some of the damage done by Mr. Cheeto.

William_Mary replies on Jun 24, 2018:

Although I highly appreciate the effort you put into fighting Trump, please do take notice to the articles mention of the democrats lack of action also! They are every bit of responsible for what is going on today too. I strongly encourage anyone who wants to help make a real difference to change their party affiliation to the green party as the only real progressive party supporting the people peace and planet. During this present primary cycle the green party in Ohio has almost doubled. This is from a facehack post. ( In Ohio Green Party voter affiliations sit at 7,353, up from 4,200 prior to May Primary. During the primary election, 1,297 previously Democratic Party affiliated voters, 896 previously Republican Party affiliated voters, 1,747 previously unaffiliated voters, and 143 first-time voters all requested and cast a Green Party ballot.) I was one of the unaffiliated voters. I know it doesn't seem like much, but look at the diversity of those switching parties! I saw the diversity during the 2016 primary as far as republicans go. I was on facehack trying to get support for Sanders before and all through 2016, helping many republicans make the switch to either join the democratic party or independent party if allowed in their area to vote as such as an independent. I was honestly astonished how many republicans were ready to vote for a democratic leaning socialist! Along with the higher age groups that were among them!!! People are tired of the status quo! We have to keep this ball rolling and get the word out to make a real difference. It rolled for that dam con artist Sanders and I know it can roll for the green party. 2016 was the year we said enough and we almost got to the top. But the corruption beat us from within our own movement. Now its time to take both these dam corrupt parties out.

Paul Jay on Trump’s Iran War Agenda and Liberals’ Korea Peace Panic [therealnews.

Robecology comments on Jun 18, 2018:

KJU/north Korea has an agenda, that SK's Moon Jae-in explained to him (not his words, I'm only being logical here); "Let America be your daddy. It worked for us (South Korea - SK) and Japan. Play along. The nukes are costly, and you had a major earthquake from testing...time to let "big Daddy" DJT ...

William_Mary replies on Jun 23, 2018:

I'm letting this one play out for a while. There's way to much room for another illogical move by either of these 2 jokers that could be made.

Trump’s Military Drops a Bomb Every 12 Minutes, and No One Is Talking About It ...

JayTea comments on Jun 21, 2018:

Obama's average was probably even higher - the war record of the Bushes, Obama and Trump is pretty damned horrific. Even worse, the ratio of civilian (non-combatant) to combatant casualties just keeps going up. One cannot help but believe there is an ongoing war against civilians ... just horrific ...

William_Mary replies on Jun 23, 2018:

All one needs to do is look at this immigration issue. Threats of going into Venezuela will do what? We already have this issue from our interference in Latin America since the 50s. Turning Venezuela upside down will send more here! Even if you managed to get the right wing opposition back into power alone, sending that country back to the times before Chavez will essentially create more immigrants fleeing a backlash of repercussions for supporting the present government. Yet no one is examining the real cause to the issue.

Trump’s Military Drops a Bomb Every 12 Minutes, and No One Is Talking About It ...

Seeker55 comments on Jun 21, 2018:

I am hardly a Trump fan, but it seems to me it is not any particular President's Military in that, we have been bombing multiple nations in various places around the world for decades. The military machine may need a President for some things, but over all, it marches to it's own beat.

William_Mary replies on Jun 23, 2018:

You hit the nail on the head Seeker! It's not any particular presidents military. The military belongs to corporations and the worlds most wealthiest ruling class serving their agenda. And the kids and family members within are paying the ultimate price at times for them. For a systematic retaining of power, resources, and to mask the failing capitalistic structure that has reached its end life. It''s either continue the status quo or move to a socialistic structure that would give more power to the middle class again. And they'll run the gantlet to its dying end before admitting they've been wrong all this centuries. Or give up any degree of their wealth.

Trump’s Military Drops a Bomb Every 12 Minutes, and No One Is Talking About It ...

EllenDale comments on Jun 21, 2018:

Wow! Just mind-blowing.

William_Mary replies on Jun 23, 2018:

I know, right. It's insane!

Brand Marketing a Political Party: Inside the Democrats’ Fake Opposition [extranewsfeed.

Lop-Eared-Mule comments on Jun 22, 2018:

Absolute bullshit, Chump and the deplorables OWN all of this.

William_Mary replies on Jun 23, 2018:

Can you be more specific? Just what is "all of this?" If you have insight to a certain reference of information within the article, we would all be grateful if you were to find it in yourself to better educate us! Hell, even to just point out what it is that you think is bullshit and I'll do the fact checking myself. But there's nothing in this article that independent journalist haven't been putting together for a few years now. The relationship between product selling using manipulation to manage perception and its relevance to political managed perception has been a discovered analogy for sometime now. And both party's playing within a joint effort to continuing the same policies from administration to administration is clearly not mistaken. I can see where one might get a little hazy from the Clinton administration into the Bush administration, but clearly we have been working on the same policy agenda from Bush up to the very present Trump. When most people manage to step out of that illusion of managed perception, filtering in from the Reagan era tends to start clicking in most peoples minds. Then working your way back though the decades of Latin America come into play. That step does entitle moving from main stream media as an only source of news though. If that's your only source of news this might be a hard adventure for you. Finding out the world isn't what you actually thought it was, or your country, is a rather rude awakening. I see you have "free thinker" in your profile. Please become one! Step out of the Matrix!

Welcome to Out Of The Illusion.

JK666 comments on Jun 22, 2018:

You are not God. It is not your job to "Lecture" us. Who do you think you are? I find your smugness reprehensible!

William_Mary replies on Jun 23, 2018:

And what is it that your attempting to do to me right now? Or is this you speaking into a mirror giving your own ego a sample of your great worldly wisdom that just miraculously ended up typing itself out on my groups forum.

Ann Coulter.

Hitchens comments on Jun 19, 2018:

Is Coulter the homeland security chief I saw on CNN?

William_Mary replies on Jun 19, 2018:

Imagine a female Steve Bannon. A far right wing nut often found on far right wing news shows spewing out lies and rewriting history.

Brazil: Police in Rio Are Killing More People Than Ever as Lawmakers Turn A Blind Eye ...

EdEarl comments on Jun 17, 2018:

I hope this story alarms city officials everywhere, rather than this story being an omen.

William_Mary replies on Jun 17, 2018:

Looks like it's back to normal after the games. If it was Venezuela it would be non stop MSM with a touch of twisted facts.

White House Press Secretary: It’s ‘Biblical’ to Rip Children from Immigrant Parents ...

Science-guy comments on Jun 14, 2018:

Wow who are these pathetic excuses for humans?

William_Mary replies on Jun 14, 2018:

It's quite scary to me!

Cheri Honkala arrested by Homeland Security [gp.org]

JayTea comments on Jun 13, 2018:

Is this now the face of America? Homeland Security used to shut political activists down!! WTF!!

William_Mary replies on Jun 13, 2018:

SO it seems. They conned them with an agreement to get them inside and then arrested her. Then held the rest inside to quell the protest while dispersing those outside. Our rights are being taken away more and more each day!

Update on Ohio's voter purging law.

Norie comments on Jun 13, 2018:

Hmm. What if you move but you’re in the same district and don’t get it. Shit out of luck I guess. Guess you just have to be more informed...

William_Mary replies on Jun 13, 2018:

Any time you move you are required to go to the board of elections and submit a change of address. I would suggest looking to see if you can do that online, but I have heard of way to many people with stories of that not working out well! When it comes to a change of address or changing party affiliation, I would strongly suggest going to the board of elections and do it in person! And making sure of the time line to get either done before the next election. And, hi Norie. It's very nice to see you here! Thank you for joining.

This is what scares me

William_Mary comments on Jun 11, 2018:

When John Oliver devotes an entire episode of his show to deliver ridicule towards another country and their president, in a means to support our governments lies, who then is the worst of the 2? I will argue they are one in the same serving the same establishment agenda. ...

William_Mary replies on Jun 12, 2018:

@Norie the guy doing the debunking works for Abby Martin. Some of the video above is from their time spent in Venezuela covering the most recent riots, false reports of all news in Venezuela being government owned, markets being empty with hoards of people starving, currency on the black market effecting the economy. There are many reasons why Venezuela is in the way it is today, and none of it is as our main stream media tells us. They didn't mention Kimberly-Clark. Also a corporation involved in the known toilet paper issue. The government actually had to go into the company and take it over. The company was claiming they didn't have material to produce. When the government went in the warehouse was well stocked for production. It's a nationwide problem with private corporations adding fuel to the economy woes wanting to go back to their hoarding before the Chavez revolution. You might also find that video of interest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUYWrPiUeWY If you're finding Abby's work interesting you can find it here at her Empire Files site. http://theempirefiles.tv/ You can also join me in my quest to get actual real independent news out to us here in my group. Out of the Illusion "Out Of The Illusion Group"

This is what scares me

William_Mary comments on Jun 11, 2018:

When John Oliver devotes an entire episode of his show to deliver ridicule towards another country and their president, in a means to support our governments lies, who then is the worst of the 2? I will argue they are one in the same serving the same establishment agenda. ...

William_Mary replies on Jun 12, 2018:

@Condor5 the evidence before you is still not enough! Remarkable!

Do you have an issue with people taking a knee?

Kuhndawg comments on Jun 11, 2018:

As a navy vet, I think people should do what they want. And I am a firm believer in exercising freedom of speech. I'm not a fan of this forced patriotism we have nowadays. If things keep going this way, freedom of speech will dissolve in to freedom to do what you want as long as it is in agreement ...

William_Mary replies on Jun 12, 2018:

@Mb_Man I'd say I'm sorry the truth hurts, but I like knowing when governments are acting without morals, lying to us, taking our rights away, conducting corrupt elections,and interfering in sovereign country's. You know, the things our main stream media is suppose to do as the 4th estate. Rather than help the governments and most wealthy plunder and rape us. http://theantimedia.com/mysterious-silence-julian-assange/

Do you have an issue with people taking a knee?

AnneWimsey comments on Jun 11, 2018:

It is my right, yes my Duty, to protest injustice and support others doing so peacefully as well! Still America last I looked....

William_Mary replies on Jun 11, 2018:

When you need a love button!

Do you have an issue with people taking a knee?

Kuhndawg comments on Jun 11, 2018:

As a navy vet, I think people should do what they want. And I am a firm believer in exercising freedom of speech. I'm not a fan of this forced patriotism we have nowadays. If things keep going this way, freedom of speech will dissolve in to freedom to do what you want as long as it is in agreement ...

William_Mary replies on Jun 11, 2018:

Freedom of speech? Ask our independent journalist how that works. And especially Julian Assange! And thank you! I think it should go as a no brainer. All of us Americans love the thought of what we want our country to be and those that protect it. I just don't presently like the falsehood of today's idea of protection from our politicians.

Do you have an issue with people taking a knee?

vaporwave comments on Jun 11, 2018:

As a veteran I have no issue at all...I kneel with them...and I no longer watch NFL...in fact I don't believe they should be playing the National anthem or have any of those military displays at all...It's all fake patriotism and a form of mind control...and judging from the response kneeling has ...

William_Mary replies on Jun 11, 2018:

How did you feel when they started making all the coaching staff wear army jackets!?!

Do you have an issue with people taking a knee?

Ckeeperga comments on Jun 11, 2018:

No, do you stand what you are in you home? This is all nothing more them a distraction from real issues.

William_Mary replies on Jun 11, 2018:

It's been a joke in the house. I stand and announce for anyone else around to do also. Then say, fuck that, and sit back down.

Do you have an issue with people taking a knee?

Gareth comments on Jun 11, 2018:

It's a fancy bit of cloth on a stick, and there's a tune to go with it. Anyone who can see through the God myth should be able to see through this.

William_Mary replies on Jun 11, 2018:

wowl.......when you need a love button.

This is your infotainment media at its best.

paul1967 comments on Jun 7, 2018:

This guy sounds knowledgeable but I have no idea whether he's just talking out of his ass

William_Mary replies on Jun 7, 2018:

Which guy? Oliver or Prysner? Who would you believe? A guy on HBO spewing known propaganda, Oliver, or a guy who's actually been in Venezuela during last years protest and spoke with the people, Prysner . Some of the scenes in the video are from his time there with Abby Martin who also debunks the false propaganda our MSM is feeding us for our government. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUYWrPiUeWY <<<< You can find the other story. The protest, Maduro's popularity, the hunger, empty stores, the news is all government owned, currency issues, all lies. No, it's not perfect there. But the reason it's not perfect there is not what you're being told! What you can find there you can also find in other major developed countries, that don't have those countries interfering within.

This is your infotainment media at its best.

whiskywoman comments on Jun 7, 2018:

Love him I never miss a broadcast

William_Mary replies on Jun 7, 2018:

Really!?! huh!?! Right. Way to get it! oye!

Would it screw up gerrymandering if some (perhaps many) people registered for the party that is the ...

William_Mary comments on Jun 7, 2018:

If you want to screw gerrymandering vote outside of the 2 party system. Most independents don't participate in the election cycles because their interest aren't addressed or they refuse to be a part of a rigged system. Give them a party worth voting for and gerrymandering will not be an issue.

William_Mary replies on Jun 7, 2018:

@EdEarl gerrymandering only works within the 2 party system. When you have nearly half the population registered, and or claiming to be independents, who most of don't vote,along with all others that feel their vote is useless, overwhelming the 2 party system with a collective vote if given a reason to get out and vote, you basically eradicate gerrymandering. If their system is based on registered republicans and democrats, which was at 26% each during the last election cycle, don't you have 48% of the population out of the system? I would imagine when broken down by state you'll get close to the same percentages? I know here in Ohio our supreme court just ruled they have to redraw the lines to a fairer manor. What ever that fucking can be LOL. I can't find any information stating whether registered independents or non affiliated voters are or are not a part of drawing lines though.

From Obama to Trump: the Grand Deception of Cyclical Change YesTheyCon [ghionjournal.

Lydiaeli comments on Jun 6, 2018:

I like the point about not finding identity through politics. A temptation for all people, regardless of politics. So, where do you find your identity?

William_Mary replies on Jun 7, 2018:

@lonniebjackson was that directed at me or the writer? Both? Either way I don't think it's a matter of being against political structures, especially in my case. I'm against political structures that only serve for the most part a few while the majority are left to feeding and serving the few. Imagine what a purgatory we would have had during the last election cycle if humans were left with no governing!