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More about the insanity of rape by muslims and the silence of the the reality:::

JacarC 8 June 7
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Jacar why did you post this now?

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Instead of trying to blame groups of people, trying to categorize them by country, religion, ethnicity, colour, or sexual orientation, wouldn't it be more productive and effective to demonize the acts and the specific perpetrators? Some blame all gays for child molestation just because they're gay. Is that any different from some of the comments i've read on this thread?

Generalizing only creates dissension, blame, hate and recriminations, not to mention violence in the name of what some subjectively label justice.

That's what we've been doing for 1000s of years and it never seems to end or resolve anything. Blaming any group for the sins of a few is bigotry and racism, no matter how it's justified or rationalized.

But we never seem to learn, and we keep going round and round like little gerbils on their toy wheels. And little changes.

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Ugh... nativism never dies. Rape isn’t a Muslim problem, it isn’t an immigrant problem, it’s a man problem. The problem of rape has more to do with the perpetuation of hypermasculinity and the objectification of women than religion.

Judaism and Christianity are, at their core, every bit as toxic to the societal relationship between men and women as Islam. That right there should tell us there is something else at play here.

@squiggy_70 what’s your objection to the “me too” movement?

Your so right in the south they cover for rapist all the time.my family in the south are hard core christion my son was raped by my cousin the whole family covers for him I didn't know
About it until years later.they say he is a good Christian just made a mistake but they been
Covering for some real deplorable Peaple while at the same time saying gay Peaple belong
In jail.

@Prescott people are accused with out proof their lives are ruined. some body just has to say something and bam! the media is all over them when you equate' somebody grabbing their butt to rape it demeans those who have been actually raped. it just is getting out of hand.

@Timothy gosh Timmy what a horrible story I am so sorry. yes it is disgusting .Prolly why we are here in an atheist site yes? this rapist should be punished and I am sure this was not a one time occurrence and with others

i read upon this Timmy guy.not my style at all. he gets involved and makes it worse not better. he makes it about racism instead of what it should be

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Ugh... nativism never dies. Rape isn’t a Muslim problem, it isn’t an immigrant problem, it’s a man problem. The problem of rape has more to do with the perpetuation of hypermasculinity and the objectification of women than religion.

Judaism and Christianity are, at their core, every bit as toxic to the societal relationship between men and women as Islam. That right there should tell us there is something else at play here.

i read up on this Tommy guy. not a good person and certainly not my style. not sure what the point was of putting up an old video

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This is so profoundly distressing.

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People from certain countries might very well tend to commit more criminal acts, but I doubt if it is because of their Islamic religion. I’ve known Muslims who were good people and outstanding citizens.

well sure that is true. it is not because of Islam or Muslims just bad scummy people all over the world. this Tommy guy is bad news

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People in these comments really should stop diverting to sexual assault commited by whites. Two wrongs don't make a right.

@Faithless1 the idea of"whatabouts" well what about the other guy who did a bad thing too.. not the point

@Faithless1 It's not bigotry. It's confronting a problem. Just like how the Me Too movement confronts a problem. When you read about Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey last year, did anyone say "Muslim men also rape"? Of course not. So why is it cool to say it vice versa? It reminds me of people who bring up the Crusades after an ISIS attack.

@squiggy_70 Women are second rate in Islam because of what Mohammed preached. He had sex slaves and his wife, Aisha, was 9.

@Faithless1 after listening to the a few times, the idea of white vs nonwhite rape is only a small part of this. the exploitation and the authorities not doing anything is horrific. that is the point.

@TheDarkNolanite well we can debate that for days years just as you can debate. the conflicting stories in the bible. the Koran reads to protect women and treat them as equals. fundamentalists it also condems murder.

@squiggy_70 Cherry-picked segments, maybe. The Koran also states that a rape victim needs 4 male witnesses or else she gets jailed under sharia. If Islam is so great for women, then why does practically every ex-Muslim (apostates who fear for their lives) say otherwise? Stop lying about the nature of this religion.

@TheDarkNolanite "lying: about the nature of this religion. what the hell? how many time have you read the Koran?. how many countries have you studied their laws? you set yourself up as some body who actually know Islam. I seriously doubt that

@squiggy_70 Atheists are executed in over a dozen countries, all Muslim-majority. Do you really think that's a coincidence? I left Facebook to get away from the regressive left, which was most people on my friends list. Now I'm back to Square One arguing with them on here. You are the regressive left in a nutshell.

@TheDarkNolanite so don't argue with them. racism is not the answer to a case like this. it makes it about people who hate Muslims not about the children .Yeah I am a left liberal knee jerk Berniecrat and wear it with pride

@squiggy_70 Muslims aren't a race.

@Faithless1, @TheDarkNolanite no but you are a racist. you follow this tommy guy. also if you do not want to argue with liberals there is a site here specially for you to sign in and only talk you them. so I have to assume since you did not do that you want an arguemtn

@squiggy_70 I am a liberal. Just not a regressive one.

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Of course some Muslim men do rape but so do white men. Perhaps the so called authorities supressed the finding was because the very people that were on the council where the very same ones who used those children.

do the research: 1400+ girls raped over more than 6 years and the police did nothing.

@Jacar hat is the point that is my concern with what the hell the border police are doing with kids now in the states

@squiggy_70 4500 children are missing or can’t be accounted for.... its inhumane and a crime against humanity to take children from their parents under any circumstances,, we crapped on DACA

@Millerski25 yes and I am afraid the same thing is happening to them that they are being trafficked

@squiggy_70 Let us hope not.

@Jolanta well what are they doing with them? where are they going? you do the math

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Then you should look at this.When his scum came to MY CITY. Notice a few things firstly how small in numbers they are. Secondly who many are afraid to show their faces and Thirdly the size and range of anti demonstrators. Sure there are a lot of young guys but look at all the middle aged blue collar working stiffs too. Knighthood????? We should bang him up like we did with Moseley.

You won't see news like this on Fox

"His scum?" hundreds of pakistan muslims have been CONVICTED in the UK.

Just to be clear: Did you watch the posted video? Do you think The Times is a reputable journalistic organization? Or, do you think Andrew Norfolk and The Times are fake news?

Tommy quit the EDL because of the racist members. That's when he joined a muslim group supporting him and his claims.

@Jacar and Le Penn ditched her dad. still doesnt change her spots

@Jacar hundreds out of 2.78 million

get the dogs outta there.

this doesn't tell me anything. certainly not in connection to Tommy Robinson

Hate to say these but Europeans invented white supremacy and “ white man’s burden” as well as manifest destiny

@Jacar what is the EDL?

@squiggy_70 The EDL is English Defense League. A white supremacist far right political party that Tommy Robinson (ne Stephen Lennon) was head of but quit when he allegedly found out they were racist. I bet he as shocked by that as when he found out that Freddy Mercury was gay

@273kelvin ok well that is different. one guy in this thread is bonkers. right wing for sure

@273kelvin I don’t know if it’s you that I should address but White Europeans have killed more Jews @ a 100 fold then Islam

@273kelvin i looked this tommy fellow up.Not my type. he makss things worse. he makes it about himand his agenda which is racism instead of about the girls. people like that always make things worse

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White folks commit more rapes in this country yet the legal system is hardly color blind, that the poor , Black and White are greatly less likely to get appropriate or knowledgeable legal representation, juries may not reflect the defendant and may have deep rooted biases, and people of color are misjudged by invalid arguments about who causes more crime

This is not the case in the UK. That is why I am posting info from NOT the us.

Watch and listen to the whole video. And do some more research. This is scary.

"White folks commit more rapes in this country"

True but only because white people are the majority population.
[ucr.fbi.gov]

Similar to the "More white people get killed by the police" argument made by the political right. The statement is true but misleading.

@Jacar what is the case in the UK while am a bit of an Anglophile your own history is replete with racism (no certainly white dominated country can completely avoid it) as evidenced colonies and commonwealth countries such as India/ Pakistan, numerous loci in Africa . What is most disturbing is the continued proliferation of overtly racists groups: NeoNazi, Skinheads, White supremacists

@Jacar what is the case in the UK while am a bit of an Anglophile your own history is replete with racism (no certainly white dominated country can completely avoid it) as evidenced colonies and commonwealth countries such as India/ Pakistan, numerous loci in Africa . What is most disturbing is the continued proliferation of overtly racists groups: NeoNazi, Skinheads, White supremacists

@TheInterlooper that is not the issue or quite accurate whites make up about 51 present of the population but far exceeds cases of rape. When do whites seem to place them selves on the moral ground

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Get a pull-back of his audience....white males, pretty much 95%..........

Not sure of your point? Tommy Robinson was targeted because of his protesting the muslim control of his county. He has been vindicated. He is not racist terrorist.

Did you watch the video? Are you implying that Andrew Norfolk and the Times are not serious reputable journalists?
Girls were abused. We should be concerned.

@Jacar Tommy Robinson whose real name is Stephen Lennon was arrested for contempt of court. Is a rabble rousing racist twat who deserves all he gets

@273kelvin, @Jacar yep and making it political a thing of muslim vs. whites it foolish and not the point at all

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