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Welp, I'm done. When it comes to Trump supporting loved ones, I've always just said "we can agree to disagree because I love you". No more. I just CANNOT fathom how anyone can justify ripping children out of their parents arms. It's just not justifiable under ANY circumstances, and to understand that he's doing it as leverage to get his useless fucking wall....If that's OK with you, you are NOT OK with me. I don't care how long we've been friends. I don't care if we're blood. I do not fucking care so save it and it was nice knowing you. Ok, rant over. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

TraceyMurphy 4 June 18
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The Left will lose on this one, too.

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Get Congress to change the law... problem solved.

You mean Trump's policy?
The law doesn't command this atrocity

@Agamic No, your right, it does not. The LAW says that children WITHOUT a parent or legal guardian present should be detained. That would mean a child all by itself with no adults present to care for it. Shitler decided to live out his racist wet dream AND get his ridiculous wall all in one fell swoop by committing this horrendous, monstrous act. He owns this, and history books are going to remember his supporters in the same light. One day you will all be deeply ashamed of yourselves. Mark250982 Turn off Fox News and read something fer cryin out loud. And please, save your response, should you have one, or get cursed out by an Eagles fan raised by sailors.

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This POS poses as our POTUS. Herr Trump is a fascist racist piece of white trash and so are his supporters.

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Curious, how do you feel about economic refugees endangering their children attempting to smuggle them illegally into a neighboring nation? Child endangerment..? Behavior any ‘family & child services’ would likely ‘remove’ the children from for their own good?

I hate trump, but the over-blown crap I’m witnessing with this issue is too much for me to stomach.. I understand the need to remove him from office, and perhaps wiser minds than mine feel this is a viable tactic or issue come November ..but the same honesty that’s kept me an Atheist keeps me from jumping on this bandwagon…

Varn Level 8 June 18, 2018

Well, my actual ancestors were "economic refugees", as you put it. Yours probably were too. How a bunch of people who landed ass backwards into the good fortune of being born here can deny other people the same rights their ancestors enjoyed is gross. If you're not Native American, you're descended from immigrants. Maybe you forgot about that. People have TREMENDOUS BALLS torturing people for doing the EXACT SAME THING their ancestors did. For whatever reason they did it. We are all humans. Your compassion is staggering. Best of luck with your life without a soul.

@Akfishlady They’re more economic opportunists than refugees.. Fleeing, or leaving several central american nations, they’ve learned the US has no facilities to jointly hold both parents and children, till now. Previously given a hearing date to plead their case … they’d disappear into the US ..awaiting the next amnesty..

Many of these ‘children’ came here alone, or unaccompanied.. This is apparently what happens to nations having fought for and acquired decent standards of living, they’re invaded by those that haven’t. Not only is this happening (and a major problem) around the world, it’s been happening here for decades.

From the West Coast, I watched the problem evolve. Had our laws been previously enforced, it would have stopped then; what’s tragic is it having taken someone as brash and truly racist as trump to implement them. But I can guarantee, many good Americans, US Americans have or will (again) cast a vote for that asshole if only to put a stop to ignored illegal immigration.

@TraceyMurphy Gosh… Immigration 101: Every human outside Africa is an ‘immigrant.’ Humans claim turf, and guard it with their lives (as do most animals). The first Americans fought back, and lost; their opponents had developed more advanced weapons and carried more virulent diseases…

The USA remains the most generous nation on earth with regard to legal immigration, too generous in fact.. And - we’re full. Sure, you can almost always cram more rats in a box, but it gets ugly … perhaps as ugly, and for the same reasons as the failed cultures producing this constant flow of economic refugees..

But you’re making this about me.. So I won’t bother with my Choctaw bloodline, it’s likely too diluted with Euro juice to sufficiently impress you. And “torturing people”? Have you listened to the compassion of the various agents involved? Their words and reasoning have struck me as the most logical and compassionate of any trump agency staff to date.

What I see, beyond the long-overdue enforcement of our immigration laws, is a gross overreaction by knee-jerk reactionaries playing the equivalent of a political team sport in which little-to-no ‘real history’ is necessary to scream for their team…

You’ve not the foggiest notion of my compassion, nor the apparent intellectual capacity to judge. ...and if you’re selling “souls” you’ve come to the wrong door 😉

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@Akfishlady It’s a necessary act. If those looking to enter the US legally or illegally don’t care to follow the rules, they need not apply. I’ve wondered, how do citizens of other nations ‘get here?’ I know the Chinese were using cargo containers a while back, many landing in BC Canada.. But legally; and if there’s a legal method - why are they not beginning there..?

Don’t confuse those having had enough of illegal/ legal immigration as racists, or ‘not wanting brown people here.’ That’s another accusation or reaction of the far left that deeply offends those closely related to them, like me..

I’ve lost track of how many nations I’ve considered emigrating to … but was also daunted by their requirements. If there’s grown an American trait.. It appears to be taking care of the problem right here, at home.

I’ve known many Canadians having played by the rules ..including one who married my former wife 🙂 Returning when and if they should, soas not to mess up future chances of becoming US citizens ... why, I don’t know 😕

I remember well standing in line at a busy Costco (warehouse store) behind an ‘Indian’ (from India) guy and his wife. I joked that ‘his was the shortest line.’ He answered in all seriousness, “They don’t want to come near me,” “They think I’ve taken their job,” “I’m only here temporarily on a work visa.” I remember equally well the angry stares we were both getting from the occupants of about 7 other ‘lines.’

I’ve know numerous Asian students through a daughter, and my nephew’s GF (she’s back, after returning to China to renew her status here), she’s living with him.. My daughter’s roommate and friends are/ were also living by the rules… Ask those ‘standing in line’ around the world ..looking to do it legally, and you’ll find some of the harshest detractors regarding illegal immigration. ...my problem is listening to too much NPR.. they rarely if ever air ‘the other perspective.’

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Trump has no empathy for others. I think we all can agree that separating a child from a parent is cruel and inhuman punishment.

Or, the cost of admission…

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