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I cannot get the "children ripped from their parents" thing out of my mind.
IMO if we accept this by remaining quiet, we are no better than the Hitler Germans who accepted his hate filled actions towards Jews, gays, gypsies, etcetcetc, until the Gestapo came for Them.
Today, text/phone your elected officials to protest! Tell them in no uncertain terms this is a vile abuse of power and unacceptable!
Save the contact info so you can keep it handy, too, You will undoubtedly need it again.
I believe these actions are a test of our humanity by a "leadership" that has none, and wants to see what it can get away with.
Act!

AnneWimsey 9 June 18
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juli15 Level 7 June 18, 2018

This does not make any sense to the liberal mentality

They are not being caught trying to sneak through, they are entering purpose-built facilities where they are told they can apply (supposedly) for political asylum.....this is obviously Not "illegally entering"!!!!!

@AnneWimsey Not what I heard today (NPR politics podcast). If they are seeking asylum, that is at the border - not this side of it, or a city hundreds or thousands of miles from the border. And the border doesn't have the facilities or capacity to process the number of ‘requests’ it’s receiving, so they’re being turned away.

Those apprehended or awaiting trial for having entered illegally are being housed within the US. And families are no longer being given a ‘get out of jail free’ pass for having snuck into the country illegally. But, children cannot be held within a jail facility with it’s general population.

I realize this is an attack on the trump administration, but we’re not dealing with refugees of war, we’re attempting to stop a continuous flow of economic opportunists who illegally entered a sovereign nation.. Should we allow all of central america to empty due to our generosity, confusion, or stupidity?

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These "holding pen" have been known about for three years, built in part in old closed down walmarts.
The agenda 21 conspiracy "nuts" claimed they would be used for the control of the populous before mass exterminations of imprisonments.
Trumpus maximus did not need to build these things they were already there, probably as part of FEMA? This seems to be a test run to see how they hold up, but be aware they are not just on on the Mexican Boarder they are all over the USA.

www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Walmart+detention+centres

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Typical convoluted liberal comparison .Jews,gays,etc did not commit illegal actions.Society should not let people get away with illegal actions because we feel sorry for them

Seeking asylum is not illegal. And in cases where some one makes it across a border, it is a misdemeanor. Terrorizing people by stealing their children is a cruel punishment, no matter the offense.

Actually under the laws of the 3rd Reich yes they did, being a Jew or the decedent of a jew and remaining in Germany was a crime. Being a Homosexual was a crime as it was in the USA too at that time and the UK and the majority of Europe., so was being a gypsy in Reich territory and so was being a Freemason or a Jehovah's witness.
So by the logic you posit, objecting to the "Final solution" was the act of a bleeding heart liberal acting against the law and the betterment of right thinking Aryan society, even if some pathetic left wingers did feel sorry for them, they should not have broken the law by being born in the wrong place.

@LenHazell53 and so they all were killed legally...........

These people are Not trying to sneak in, they are peacefully standing in line to apply for asylum in buildings (supposedly) designed to help them apply.

@mary25y No one is “stealing children.” The adults having brought them here, many as a hedge against being held, are awaiting trial or deportation. Far more serious than a “misdemeanor.”

They are allowed to seek asylum and must get in line ... but asylum from what? ‘Seeking asylum’ is the claim after being apprehended within our border. This is a worldwide problem, what makes it less serious or unimportant here?

@AnneWimsey
It is important to differentiate between illegal and immoral, some people have difficulty with that point.

@LenHazell53 ooookkaaayyyyy...common Misdemeanors ("seeking asylum" is Not, never has been, a crime, btw):
Littering
Parking infractions
Shoplifting minor items
Public drunkenness (Not vehicular)
Spitting on the sidewalk
Jumping a turnstile
Graffiti
So, where are the detention centers for these hideous crime-committers' kids?
Just following your reasoning, such as it is.......

@AnneWimsey
I'm on your side 100%, what Trump has done is a crime against humanity, it is all very well for right wingers to scream "Illegal" and say the means justifies the end, but if it reduces you to the sort of monster that holds a child hostage to make a political point, the laws have no ethical foundation the people are right to call their leaders on it, a mark them for ever lasting shame on it

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I’m convinced no babies are being ‘ripped’ from anyone’s hands.. This is Hyperbole, likely, the very definition. It’s being used in a desperate attempt to wound trump. I get that. But, what’s actually happening is what should have happened 30 years ago.

I’ve paid attention, close attention. Belonged to a west coast organization long advocating a reduction in immigration, both legal & ilegal. And, I suspect this may backfire … as it should..

Finding myself in agreement with both trump and our militaristic border patrol agents on this one feels weird. But worse, finding myself in serious disagreement with those I consider friends … is a learning experience ~

Varn Level 8 June 18, 2018

No you are right, babies are not being ripped away, they only take a way mature 5 YEAR OLDS.

@LenHazell53 Heard an interview today on NPR (credit to them for finally airing ‘the other side’ ) describing how illegal immigrants had learned that ‘if they entered illegally with children,’ ‘they’d be released into the community (where they’d instantly disappear) due to the lack of holding facilities for families.’ These poor excuses for parents are using children as a method to escape deportation! And it’s no longer working … but you condone that..?

[edited (yet again) to remove a 'smiley face' due to the use of punctuation]

@Varn
Tell you what, if you are so righteous, volunteer to be the person grabbing screaming terrified 5 year olds who have no idea what is happening away from their parents, all day everyday and explaining to them why it is perfectly all right for you to be a heartless bastard because you're a good american and they are a filthy illegal.

🙂

@LenHazell53 You’re playing righteous, I’m a realist.. And, it’s telling ..when the name calling begins 🙂

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Totally agree herr trump is emulating that pos hitler.

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I totally agree with you there.

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